NSA Wiretapping and Snowden on the run

Mr Uncle Leroy

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their going to let snowden find a safe haven where he cant be extradited. all them allies in on it.

The SuperThug from Rapper Noreaga aka NORE is even fitting. NORE (N####z On the Run Eatin')

 
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I've read this piece and placed it in the bushes alongside a number of other op-eds on the subject. I know you will be tempted to say, "McNamara, she's a Georgetown professor with *state credentials here*," but her credentials do not allow her to make poorly reasoned arguments against policies she disagrees with. To put it simply, her saying that the fourth amendment was violated does not stand as evidence that a violation occurred.

Her article is purposely sloppy and misleading. She fails to make a distinction between the portion of PRISM meant to collect foreign intelligence and the portion meant to collect domestic metadata. Furthermore, when mentioning the collection of telephonic metadata, she glosses over the Supreme Court's decision regarding the reasonable expectation of privacy; thereby affording the argument no context and thus, no power. And finally, she refuses to properly and clearly convey the distinction between the interception and monitoring of content versus the collecting and analyzing metadata.

The average person reading this and other WAPO articles would believe that national security officials are going out and monitoring phone/internet content without meeting any sort of legal precedent sans a blanket FISA court order. This however, does not appear to be the case. But bet, there has been a lot of sloppy reporting and commentary over the past two weeks and most of it is rooted in begging the question in order to sensationalize the story.

As previously stated, this program is simply law enforcement 401 on a global scale.


you should expect a snooping program that operates like a criminal investigation on a 'global scale' to have some questionable and repugnant features...a large number of people under suspicion,,transcripts of conversations/communications..copies of audio and video recordings..,all without a warrant or warrants issued with little or no probable cause...i could be wrong but all the shyt snowden is in suggests the worst case scenario and give his claims credibility...he wouldnt be facing a death sentence if he was making it all up...
 

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Am I right in assuming people voluntarily enter these contracts with phone companies knowing their information is being stored?

If so I dont see the big deal...:ld:
 

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dude is either very reckless or thinks he really is untouchable...won't stop the gov from sending him a message that his daughter tied up in a brooklyn basement.

regardless of what secrets he has this guy has to know his peoples can still be touched something serious. and it would be done solely out of retribution. not sure it's a worthwhile sacrifice imo. he's not really exposing anything we didn't know already. not yet, at least....
 

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The arrangement to entrust encrypted archives of his files with others also sheds light on a cryptic statement Snowden made on June 17 during a live chat with The Guardian. In the online session he said, “All I can say right now is the U.S. government is not going to be able to cover this up by jailing or murdering me. Truth is coming, and it cannot be stopped.”
 

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We need Jason Bourne to put a bullet in that traitors head :pacspit:

He's defending the violation of the US government (the Fourth Amendment) who have performed unreasonable searches and seizures and has implemented many secret laws to achieve their goals. That is a direct violation of the Constitution. How is what he is doing traitorous? The United States was founded on the principles of a limited government and to protect the citizenry. How does gathering data of every U.S citizen and storing it in a centralized database in Utah going to protect U.S citizens from "terrorism"? Remember, this is the very reason why they claim to be doing this.
 

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He's defending the violation of the US government (the Fourth Amendment) who have performed unreasonable searches and seizures and has implemented many secret laws to achieve their goals. That is a direct violation of the Constitution. How is what he is doing traitorous? The United States was founded on the principles of a limited government and to protect the citizenry. How does gathering data of every U.S citizen and storing it in a centralized database in Utah going to protect U.S citizens from "terrorism"? Remember, this is the very reason why they claim to be doing this.

thats just bullshyt and hype, dude is a traitor and a spy
 

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At this point I'm convinced that short of killing y'all mothers with a dull blade, some of you will believe and go along with anything the government says or does. Brazil is rioting over increased bus fare, turkey is going ham over a park and rule changes, and we suffer through two wars, the patriot act, spying on us, killing us without due process, and no one says a world.

The people who do stand up for what's right are ridiculed and smeared like they're the ones with problems. I'm strongly considering moving bak to Africa because this is not the America I came to know and love when I moved here
 

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At this point I'm convinced that short of killing y'all mothers with a dull blade, some of you will believe and go along with anything the government says or does. Brazil is rioting over increased bus fare, turkey is going ham over a park and rule changes, and we suffer through two wars, the patriot act, spying on us, killing us without due process, and no one says a world.

The people who do stand up for what's right are ridiculed and smeared like they're the ones with problems. I'm strongly considering moving bak to Africa because this is not the America I came to know and love when I moved here

*yawn*
 

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Edward Snowden threw away a good life no matter how temporary to warn a nation of cowardly sheep that the government was spying on them !
whats funny (or rather sad) is all the posters on here calling him a traitor would never do such a thing given a >120k salary. theyd keep the aspects of their job and keep on living cowardly lives putting up with injustices right in front of them because they be gettin money

these dudes would work as slavemasters watching their own people being controlled and enslaved and not do a damn thing about it.
 

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you're so blind you succumb to basic idiocy :snoop:

nowhere did this dude say he cosigns ecuador or russia or china's policies towards their citizens.
we don't even whether he cares about that.

all he wants out of those countries is shelter, not willing being waterboarded all day in guantanamo bay

his point was to expose US - his country's - hypocricy and lies towards their own citizens.
 
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