NSA Wiretapping and Snowden on the run

[badvillain]

you lost with me with the gangbanging stuff, chill with the graphicals

but anyways i disagree that the chinese or russians government doesnt have to answer, either you are down for freedom or not, i dont see how anybody can be down with freedom and privacy and not have a when it comes to china and russia

so you are saying only americans deserve freedom and privacy...and now the truth comes out

I use to love trolling when it first started. Now a days I can't tell if people are trolling or legitimately as retarded as Bobby Boucher.

Stop worrying about other countries when we have such severe domestic hypocrisies.

I'm a firm supporter of sovereign states and recognize that the progression of humanity,culture and freedom develop and evolve in different societies naturally at different times. All these so-called humanitarian wars(which are really driven by the military-industrial complex and securing natural resources) that were suppose to establish western-style democracies always fail. Why? Because basic rights need to be self-realized and fought for by the countries' citizens.

Live by example and not by rhetoric, which the US obviously hasn't been doing.

 

[NubianVitruvian]

By we I assume you mean North Americans and not the Chinese and Russians being oppressed, languishing in jail and work camps

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/18/w...ed-russian-punk-band.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/12/w...osing-chinas-forced-labor.html?pagewanted=all

Ai Weiwei says blind dissident's escape will inspire Chinese

If you motherfukers are anti American that's cool, but don't say you are fighting for freedom, if you are for freedom you fight oppression wherever it it exists

I said fukk the government world wide homie. No one is on our side but each other. We The People.

 

[RAX 010]

and now the truth comes out

Im interested in knowing what you do for a living and your background...N/H

 

[Blackking]

you lost with me with the gangbanging stuff, chill with the graphicals

but anyways i disagree that the chinese or russians government doesnt have to answer, either you are down for freedom or not, i dont see how anybody can be down with freedom and privacy and not have a when it comes to china and russia

so you are saying only americans deserve freedom and privacy...and now the truth comes out

Saying that we have to focus on reclaiming our own rights first. Those government have to answer to those people, or government has to answer to us.

 

[yseJ]

That is exactly what I am saying, if you speak out against something you speak out on it wherever you see it, if not I can't respect it and I have zero respect for snowden

so if every country in the world does it he should just die here becauseyoud only respect him if he goes to a nonopressive country ? again, his point is STRICTLY about american policies.

you want him to speak out about chinas oppression when hundreds of thousands of people have done that already, with far more evidence of china being opressive hes ever had ? whats next, will you ask him to take a stand on that sky is blue ?

again, he never said china or russia are not opressive. hes just seeking shelter there. I mean, are you fukking stupid to not understand that point ?

he has concrete info on US government fukking up peoples privacy and feeding us lies but he has to talk about shyt he prolly doesnt know too well about a foreign country hes never been to ?

you sound like a blind old white american imperialist.

 

[theworldismine13]

I use to love trolling when it first started. Now a days I can't tell if people are trolling or legitimately as retarded as Bobby Boucher.

Stop worrying about other countries when we have such severe domestic hypocrisies.

I'm a firm supporter of sovereign states and recognize that the progression of humanity,culture and freedom develop and evolve in different societies naturally at different times. All these so-called humanitarian wars(which are really driven by the military-industrial complex and securing natural resources) that were suppose to establish western-style democracies always fail. Why? Because basic rights need to be self-realized and fought for by the countries' citizens.

Live by example and not by rhetoric, which the US obviously hasn't been doing.

I'm not trolling anybody, I am saying exactly what i am believe. I believe in individual freedom and that individual freedom is a human right, regardless of culture or nation. I reject isolationism, as bad as the US i think russia and china are worse and the us should confront them and limit their reach and influence.

 

[theworldismine13]

Im interested in knowing what you do for a living and your background...N/H

im just a law abiding tax paying citizen

 

[theworldismine13]

Saying that we have to focus on reclaiming our own rights first. Those government have to answer to those people, or government has to answer to us.

so if every country in the world does it he should just die here becauseyoud only respect him if he goes to a nonopressive country ? again, his point is STRICTLY about american policies.

you want him to speak out about chinas oppression when hundreds of thousands of people have done that already, with far more evidence of china being opressive hes ever had ? whats next, will you ask him to take a stand on that sky is blue ?

again, he never said china or russia are not opressive. hes just seeking shelter there. I mean, are you fukking stupid to not understand that point ?

he has concrete info on US government fukking up peoples privacy and feeding us lies but he has to talk about shyt he prolly doesnt know too well about a foreign country hes never been to ?

you sound like a blind old white american imperialist.

i think we should agree to disagree, i think china's and russia record in privacy and individual rights is very much an issue, individuals rights comes first, period, nation or culture is irrelevant

ill fuk with anybody or at least respect them if they are standing up for individual freedom and privacy, but if they are just going against america ill pass

 

[yseJ]

Theworldismine is either extremely stupid or on the government payroll. I can't figure out which though

the former, I'd say. dude prolly looks at WWII vets protesting the war in Iraq like
yall were down with WWII but now aint supporting this one ? why didnt yall speak about against wars back then?

 

[Blackking]

i think we should agree to disagree, i think china's and russia record is privacy and individual rights is very much an issue, individuals rights comes first, period, nation or culture is irrelevant

ill fuk with anybody or at least respect them if they are standing up for individual freedom and privacy, but if they are just going against america ill pass

back to the analogy, minus the graphic scenes. How would it make sense for a man to speak on all these other women, and all these other relationships, if he can't even keep his own woman in check?

If we spend our time and concerns on the rights of people in places like China that we have little effect on... then we are taking the focus off our own individual rights. NTM our nation as a unit, as a military, as a government has no incentive to intervene in rights abuses worldwide if it's own people are sitting on the sideline allowing rights to be taken away, literally, every other month. The only time the USA will intervene as it stands now - is if there are monetary gains and global political agendas that satisfy the top 1%... the US has shown from 1950-2013 to attack, economic embargo, ban, block trade, etc for all the wrong reasons. We trade w China like Crackheads, but use no lube when it comes to our dealings with Cuba

 

[yseJ]

I'm not trolling anybody, I am saying exactly what i am believe. I believe in individual freedom and that individual freedom is a human right, regardless of culture or nation. I reject isolationism, as bad as the US i think russia and china are worse and the us should confront them and limit their reach and influence.

the US in a nutshell, while better, is not THAT much better. we just have more illusion of freedom. we are also a richer and more developed country so we have a better standard of living, as well as more established economic market.

also, thats a fundamental difference we disagree on. I say make sure to clean up your shyt before talking shyt about other peoples shyt. thats what snowden is doing.

thats exactly opposite of what the US government has been doing. telling other nations how to run their shyt and talking about opressing freedom and rights while they themselves did the same thing. at least those nations are/were upfront about it

 

[theworldismine13]

back to the analogy, minus the graphic scenes. How would it make sense for a man to speak on all these other women, and all these other relationships, if he can't even keep his own woman in check?

If we spend our time and concerns on the rights of people in places like China that we have little effect on... then we are taking the focus off our own individual rights. NTM our nation as a unit, as a military, as a government has no incentive to intervene in rights abuses worldwide if it's own people are sitting on the sideline allowing rights to be taken away, literally, every other month. The only time the USA will intervene as it stands now - is if there are monetary gains and global political agendas that satisfy the top 1%... the US has shown from 1950-2013 to attack, economic embargo, ban, block trade, etc for all the wrong reasons. We trade w China like Crackheads, but use no lube when it comes to our dealings with Cuba

i dont have a problem criticizing the US, i can list a bunch of things that are wrong and hypocritical about us foreign policy, but i wouldnt run to china or russia and talk shyt about the us or be talking about freedom and privacy from a place that has even less freedom and pricacy than the US, i cant respect that

 

[Blackking]

i dont have a problem criticizing the US, i can list a bunch of things that are wrong and hypocritical about us foreign policy, but i wouldnt run to china or russia and talk shyt about the us or be talking about freedom and privacy from a place that has even less freedom and pricacy than the US, i cant respect that

well.. I guess I can see that. I wasn't raised to talk shyt about fam business outside the household.

 

[theworldismine13]

the US in a nutshell, while better, is not THAT much better. we just have more illusion of freedom. we are also a richer and more developed country so we have a better standard of living, as well as more established economic market.

also, thats a fundamental difference we disagree on. I say make sure to clean up your shyt before talking shyt about other peoples shyt. thats what snowden is doing.

thats exactly opposite of what the US government has been doing. telling other nations how to run their shyt and talking about opressing freedom and rights while they themselves did the same thing. at least those nations are/were upfront about it

yeah and that is where we disagree, i think the us is THAT much better than russia and china when it comes to individual freedom and privacy

 

[theworldismine13]

Theworldismine is either extremely stupid or on the government payroll. I can't figure out which though

im just a humble african

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