If valuing concepts like borders and immigration control make me a nativist so be it. The challenge for you is to demonstrate the values of amnesty without calling its detractors racists and xenophobes. The left has rendered those terms meaningless through abuse and misapplication.
NPR debate panel on illegal immigration
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If valuing concepts like borders and immigration control make me a nativist so be it. The challenge for you is to demonstrate the values of amnesty without calling its detractors racists and xenophobes. The left has rendered those terms meaningless through abuse and misapplication.
88m3
Fast Money & Foreign Objects
Your continued intellectual dishonesty isn't worth my time on this subject. The same goes for Napoleon.
So what's the solution for deportation? Rounding millions up already here and sending them back? That's unrealistic and quite dangerous.
88m3
Fast Money & Foreign Objects
What am I being intellectually dishonest about? Be specific. You are the one throwing out every ad-hominem in the book.Your continued intellectual dishonesty isn't worth my time on this subject. The same goes for Napoleon.
That we have waited to a point that it is logistically difficult doesn't make it any more or less immoral. This is a cop out.
Are you a bot?
I'm not hispanic.hispanic kids help their parents study for the test all the time.
ogc163
Superstar
About to watch, hopefully this is better than the rest of the stuff that passes as Anti-Immigration arguments here.
This is the world we live in though, aka reality. There's 10-15 million undocumented immigrants living here. Part of the argument is what to do with them. You can't go back in time and change that. Also do you agree with Trump that we need to spend billions on a wall and put forces all alongside it to enforce the law? Also what about migration from Mexico being in the negative in the present day? Things aren't as cut and dry as it's wrong, there's gotta be a solution.
ogc163
Superstar
1. Protectionist based arguments already being spewed, with prospects of more regulation on employers. 
1. Protectionist based arguments already being spewed, with prospects of more regulation on employers.
Make it unattractive to stay, and de-incentivize them from coming.
and frankly, a lot of them CAN be deported. Straight up.
To be honest. You wanna know the problem?...pics like this are negative PR:
theworldismine13
God Emperor of SOHH
you dont need to round up 11 million, you merely enforce existing law more thoroughly, which ironically is what obama started doing in the beginning, people get caught up in immgration in all kinds of ways, and obama was deporting 400,000 a year, in fact that IMO that is why you started seeing a negative migration to mexico. So all you have to do is increase enforcment, to maybe 750,000 a year and a lot of people will self deport because the cost of being an illegal immigrant becomes to high, in 10 years with stricter enforcement and self deportation you willl have a huge reduction in illegal immigration, you dont gotta build a wall and you doint have to round anybody up
ogc163
Superstar
Neocons have pretty much said fukk free trade principles, anti-immigration arguments are on par with "bring back manufacturing jobs" rhetoric.