NPR debate panel on illegal immigration

[ThatTruth777]

I'm like 25 minutes in it and I'm getting annoyed with how much usage of emotion these women using in their arguments

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

I'm like 25 minutes in it and I'm getting annoyed with how much usage of emotion these women using in their arguments

Funny shyt ain't it?

They even were made to admit that deportation IS an option for some people.

 

[N.J.stan]

Can we call them anchor babies? Cause like 4 years ago y'all hated that term.

I think it is a sweeping generalization to say that every illegal immigrant in this country that has children does it for that sole reason, that's literally asinine thinking. I'm sure some do, but like all other generalizations in political blame, it's probably a very small percentage.

 

[N.J.stan]

Let's not focus on the statistical Minority of cases of anchor babies.

You've basically confirmed that if they don't have citizen kids, they should go immediately.

Or how about this? If the kid is under the age of 16, they can stay?

Where did I say anything even alluding to such a conclusion?

 

[TLR Is Mental Poison]

I think it is a sweeping generalization to say that every illegal immigrant in this country that has children does it for that sole reason, that's literally asinine thinking. I'm sure some do, but like all other generalizations in political blame, it's probably a very small percentage.

Why they're here is irrelevant.... they shouldn't be here

 

[N.J.stan]

There is no catch and no rationalizing, the family should stay together and the child should go with the parent, it's that simple

It's the parents responsibility to clear up the paperwork

But you're oversimplifying the issue and didn't address my main point. If you send the child with the parent, then they are an illegal immigrant in the home country. Or is that just for that country to figure out at that point?

 

[N.J.stan]

Why they're here is irrelevant.... they shouldn't be here

Neither should any non native american, but here we are

 

[TLR Is Mental Poison]

Neither should any non native american, but here we are

If you believed that you wouldn't still be here. Don't do that.

Immigration law and law in general exists for a reason. Should we stop enforcing all laws now?

 

[N.J.stan]

If you believed that you wouldn't still be here. Don't do that.

Immigration law and law in general exists for a reason. Should we stop enforcing all laws now?

Immigration is complicated far beyond kick em out or let em stay. That was more or less my point. Do I know what should be done? Fukk no, nor am I passionate about either option.

 

[theworldismine13]

But you're oversimplifying the issue and didn't address my main point. If you send the child with the parent, then they are an illegal immigrant in the home country. Or is that just for that country to figure out at that point?

yeah its for the parent and the country to figure it out, that is a minor paperwork issue, i dont even know why you bringing it up

there is no oversimplification, the child goes with the parent unless the parent makes other arrangments

 

[TLR Is Mental Poison]

Immigration is complicated far beyond kick em out or let em stay. That was more or less my point. Do I know what should be done? Fukk no, nor am I passionate about either option.

You're not passionate about either option, but you don't want us to enforce immigration laws on the books to keep families together

Immigration policy is complicated but the laws on the books are simple. You come here illegally, you get deported If people don't like it, they have to change the law. Picking and choosing laws to enforce or not enforce undermines the whole legal process.

 

[N.J.stan]

yeah its for the parent and the country to figure it out, that is a minor paperwork issue, i dont even know why you bringing it up

there is no oversimplification, the child goes with the parent unless the parent makes other arrangments

If that were true, we wouldn't be having this discussion.

 

[N.J.stan]

You're not passionate about either option, but you don't want us to enforce immigration laws on the books to keep families together

Immigration policy is complicated but the laws on the books are simple. You come here illegally, you get deported If people don't like it, they have to change the law. Picking and choosing laws to enforce or not enforce undermines the whole legal process.

The law also states that anyone born here is a US citizen, which if deporting the illegal parents is your stance, makes the issue far more complex, which is on of the reasons why immigration law is always a major issue in every election

I think the best way forward is reducing the cost and complexity to become a US citizen, while maintaining the stringent security around doing so.

 

[theworldismine13]

If that were true, we wouldn't be having this discussion.

i dont know what you mean, immigration law in the us doesnt take into account paperwork issues that arise in other countries, that actually has nothing to do with the discussion

parents with us citizen children get deported all the time, there is nothing complicated about it

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

I think it is a sweeping generalization to say that every illegal immigrant in this country that has children does it for that sole reason, that's literally asinine thinking. I'm sure some do, but like all other generalizations in political blame, it's probably a very small percentage.

Well how do you know?

Do you ask each of them?

Does intent matter?

If you're illegal yourself, and you have kids here...thats a de facto, anchor baby.