I'm pretty sure they're not talking Puerto Ricans like this
I'm pretty sure they're not talking Puerto Ricans like this
Most Puerto ricans i know came from the island and are hard headed. They call me new york rican even though im DominicanSouth Orlando is mostly Haitian and Puerto Rican though. Puerto Ricans really don't like Haitians. I mean really.
But I think the whole American blacks and PR's being cool thing comes from Nuyoricans, period. Ricans on the Island often look down on Nuyoricans as being ignorant of their native culture and assimilating to black culture. And hella immigrants of all races, Africans, Asians, Indians, Latinos etc. hate on American blacks because they think black folks in America are holding themselves back when they don't take into account all of the institutional racism that has kept black people down in America since day one.
It's the same where I'm from with Northern Cali Mexicans getting along with blacks for the most part. Surenos from L.A., Mexico, El Salvador, Honudras etc. look at Northern Cali Mexicans for being sellouts for getting along with blacks and assimilating aspects of black culture. So they kill each other. Latinos born and raised in America in the cities are more likely to relate to blacks than their own immigrant parents. Same thing with hella Asians in the Bay. The kids assimilate to popular urban culture which is always black culture.
But I do agree that Puerto Rican is not a race. It kills me when people say "Fat Joe is not white, he's Puerto Rican" as if there are no white Puerto Ricans. Fat Joe look like he got white and Asian PR/Cuban blood. But being Latino is a culture which is markedly different from whitebred Starbucks drinking, sandals wearing, shorts in the winter, drawing dikks on your face after you pass out drunk at a party, country music listening, acid tripping, meth smoking, "I'm normal" white American peckerwood culture.
You mean to me Fat Joe has no Black in him with his thick lips and broad nose? ( And I don't mean that as a dis cause I have those features)
Him and Mack 10 played brothers in movie for crying out loud.
Over 60% of ricans have Afrikan blood breh...
MUCH bigger chance of Afrikan than Asian in him.
But what matters is how much black blood someone has...Fat Joe probably does have some black blood but nobody thinks of him as being blackYou mean to me Fat Joe has no Black in him with his thick lips and broad nose? ( And I don't mean that as a dis cause I have those features)
Him and Mack 10 played brothers in movie for crying out loud.
Over 60% of ricans have Afrikan blood breh...
MUCH bigger chance of Afrikan than Asian in him.
The Curious Case of Racism In Puerto Rico
After living and working in PR for some years, I am still always perplexed when a friendly Puerto Rican brings up the issue of racism and how it does not exist in PR. Perhaps this is an attempt to try to portray PR in its best light, or it could be wishful thinking. Whatever the case, it could not be further from the truth.
So what accounts for this disconnect of whether PR is racist or not? I believe most PR have an overly simplistic notion of what constitutes racism. Sure, the KKK does not exist in PR, there is no history of lynching, and the mixed population of people get along relatively peacefully.
But what the Puerto Rican misses is that its variant of anti-black racism is WORSE than that of the US mainland. How could I say that, you ask? Well, racial discrimination is an everyday phenomenon in PR. This finally was brought to light by Reggaeton star Tego Calderon who hails from Loiza, PR, the town most associated with black Puerto Ricans. Calderon wrote that racism is worse in PR because it is universally denied.
This denial comes in the form of Black Puerto Ricans claiming there is no racism, yet they consider themselves white on self-identification forms. It comes in the form of Black Puerto Ricans claiming there is no racism, yet they usually do not even consider attending university in PR as it "is just not for them." It comes in the form of Black Puerto Ricans claiming there is no racism, yet they know that the highest paying professions and most lucrative jobs are reserved for "Los Finos," or the white elite Puerto Ricans.
One other fallacy in Puerto Rico is the "We are all Puerto Ricans, whatever our color so we have not racism here." This may be true, but most Americans consider themselves "all Americans" regardless of color, but that does not preclude the existence of racism there. The family of all Puerto Ricans still has a color caste system that treats people differently according to color, regardless of their status as a Puerto Rican.
Yet another fallacy from the island is "Puerto Ricans are not racist because most of us have some level of black blood." How ridiculous is that notion? Adolf Hitler is said to have Jewish ancestors, yet he was more anti-Jewish than any other person in history. Further, many white Americans have native American and even African blood, but that never stopped them from killing natives or discriminating against blacks over the years.
From a personal standpoint, a friend of mine came to Puerto Rico as a manager of a pretty big organization. His status as an African American was a bone of contention when he began instituting changes in an under-performing institution. He was resisted tooth and nail, falsely accused of managerial misconduct, and even stereotyped as creating fear in the office. After a tumultuous year, my friend had enough documented evidence to begin firing people and replacing them with high performers with integrity. But his ordeal of insubordination from a few subordinates was based on his skin color as most whites in PR could not handle a black person in a position of authority over them.
Finally, when a PR gentleman proudly boasted to me how PR has no racism, I asked him, "Could a black Puerto Rican ever be elected Governor of PR?" He thought for a moment, and said, "Probably not, I see your point."
So for all of the racist history of the US mainland, African Americans are well represented in the middle and upper classes, attend university in the thousands and increasingly obtain advanced degrees. They have multi-millionaires who are not associated with sports or entertainment, and even the current President of the USA is African American. In contrast, black PR languish in isolation on the island and they are shunned from partaking in the means of social mobility reserved for non-blacks there.
There is indeed racism in Puerto Rico, and it is high time to stop the charade down there. Having said that, black Puerto Ricans themselves have the onus of stopping the denial and starting the move to educate themselves and build institutions that increase their progress. Until that happens, they will remain the ridiculed demographic group that does not realize that the joke is on them.
Ain't no telling what Fat Joe real race could be unless you seen his parents, brothers, sisters, cousins etc. And features ain't got nothing to do with it. Where I'm from, hella Samoans look black as shyt with big natural fro's, wide noses, big lips and even have the same varying complexions as blacks. Same thing with hella polynesians in the Bay because every race in the hood act like a nikka. If you came to the Bay and went to the hood, you couldn't tell a black from a Samoan, or mixed nikka from a poly etc. Mack 10 look like the average Samoan in Cali, btw.
But what matters is how much black blood someone has...Fat Joe probably does have some black blood but nobody thinks of him as being black
My G there is one HUGE defference between Polynesian's and Latinas.
PR HAD AFRIKAN SLAVES JUST LIKE THE US and just like most countries in the New World (western hemisphere).
Just like you know a light skinned African American with kinky hair and broad nose and lips has Afrikan roots you can for DAMN SURE bet that a PR nikka with Kinky hair and broad nose and lips has Afrikan roots.
Fat Joe and Pun ALWAYS repped it too.
Pun would say "I'm mixed with Black and proud" in his rhymes.
Or on his intro they would say the blood and strength of an AFRIKAN
I have my theories that Polynesians are some of the earliest migrants out of the Afrikan continent as well, But thats neither here nor there.
who ever listens to @Wild self is a fukking clown...this is a guy who claims to be "pro black" but wouldnt mind fukking white's, pr's, dr's any other nationality and shyts on black women constantly...he pro black but nikka promoting some white girls instagram in his sig...nikka talks down on every nationality but he pro black ...i dont know any grown black man that would have a pic of sonic the hedgehog as an avatar...a grown ass man...he got the nerve to call people ugly but wont post his pic...all this bytch nikka does is try to be more bougie towards blacks more than anything...so i really doubt your black yourself p*ssy...im sure your a cac trying to have nikkas going at eachothers neck...you aint fooling no one sucka...