No thread on Affirmative Action fighting for its life?

[Scustin Bieburr]

I see you're not following the Harvard lawsuit. It's a direct attack on Black Admission.

I'll be completely frank: Harvard and the ivy league in general is not the kind of environment that encourages black people to have independent spirits and to care about other black people and black culture as a whole. I would much rather see more funding for HCBUs which can foster an environment where you can be yourself and not feel like you have to appease the white profs or whitewashed student body.

Black post secondary institutions can give students knowledge, foster connections among other black students, inoculate against c00nery and generally build a sense of racial pride. Black peoples biggest issue is our collective desire to want to be accepted by the mainstream despite the fact that in many ways we are the spice that makes America unique.

We invented the dances, we invented the music, our style of writing influenced the general literary tradition in addition to the dialects and slang and fashion we create that are imitated worldwide. You won't get the same depth of understanding about that rich tradition nor will you get the sense of belonging and racial pride you would get in a quality HCBU. Let affirmative action die so that our own schools may not only live but thrive.

When the likes of sanjit and duc dong realize that cacs aren't really that intelligent, but have power due to their racial status. Theyll probably start leaving those ivy league universities anyway. You can have all the degrees you want but if at the end of the day the cacs just see you as a robot that is good at crunching numbers and not a possible leader, you end up realizing you got scammed. As someone already said earlier in this thread other groups stay getting hustled because they lust for the prestige of the ivy league.

Black people need to stop expecting people who dont care about us to have our interests at heart and should be propping up our own industries where we will be accepted with open arms instead of tolerated or used as a marketing tool and shield for criticism.

 

[Emoryal]

Yeah, the Asians are pretty much being used as pawns by white conservatives. The 'mastermind' behind the Harvard lawsuit is Edward Blum, a white conservative who pretty much has a hardon for going after laws that benefit black people. The really bad thing though is that if the Harvard case reaches the Supreme Court, AA as we know it is probably fukked. And it's looking like it could go that way.

Why would they need to be used as pawns?

 

[Tom Foolery]

I'll be completely frank: Harvard and the ivy league in general is not the kind of environment that encourages black people to have independent spirits and to care about other black people and black culture as a whole. I would much rather see more funding for HCBUs which can foster an environment where you can be yourself and not feel like you have to appease the white profs or whitewashed student body.

Black post secondary institutions can give students knowledge, foster connections among other black students, inoculate against c00nery and generally build a sense of racial pride. Black peoples biggest issue is our collective desire to want to be accepted by the mainstream despite the fact that in many ways we are the spice that makes America unique.

We invented the dances, we invented the music, our style of writing influenced the general literary tradition in addition to the dialects and slang and fashion we create that are imitated worldwide. You won't get the same depth of understanding about that rich tradition nor will you get the sense of belonging and racial pride you would get in a quality HCBU. Let affirmative action die so that our own schools may not only live but thrive.

When the likes of sanjit and duc dong realize that cacs aren't really that intelligent, but have power due to their racial status. Theyll probably start leaving those ivy league universities anyway. You can have all the degrees you want but if at the end of the day the cacs just see you as a robot that is good at crunching numbers and not a possible leader, you end up realizing you got scammed. As someone already said earlier in this thread other groups stay getting hustled because they lust for the prestige of the ivy league.

Black people need to stop expecting people who dont care about us to have our interests at heart and should be propping up our own industries where we will be accepted with open arms instead of tolerated or used as a marketing tool and shield for criticism.

Your response is not based on reality.

There are jobs that are only given to Ivy League Grad, I repeat, only given to Ivy Leaguers. Asian Americans know this and that's why they're grinding to remove quotas. By not stopping this, you have just killed the dreams of many high achieving black students.

Second, this doesn't have to be a choose one scenario. We can have both. Not everyone will make it to the top schools and if they want, they can attend a HBCU. You've watched too many episodes of A Different World.

Edit: And once you've eliminated the Black student from getting the Ivy League education, You're now going to need Affirmative Action to land him a job because his degree doesn't have the same recognition.

 

[Emoryal]

Black peoples biggest issue is our collective desire to want to be accepted by the mainstream despite the fact that in many ways we are the spice that makes America unique.
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Proof?

 

[xoxodede]

I support HBCU's and think all AADOS should be attending them. Its nothing like them.

And since AADOS aren't even getting in like that - I don't think it even matters anymore.

Basically -- let them hoes fight.

 

[Thanos]

I'll be completely frank: Harvard and the ivy league in general is not the kind of environment that encourages black people to have independent spirits and to care about other black people and black culture as a whole. I would much rather see more funding for HCBUs which can foster an environment where you can be yourself and not feel like you have to appease the white profs or whitewashed student body.

Black post secondary institutions can give students knowledge, foster connections among other black students, inoculate against c00nery and generally build a sense of racial pride. Black peoples biggest issue is our collective desire to want to be accepted by the mainstream despite the fact that in many ways we are the spice that makes America unique.

We invented the dances, we invented the music, our style of writing influenced the general literary tradition in addition to the dialects and slang and fashion we create that are imitated worldwide. You won't get the same depth of understanding about that rich tradition nor will you get the sense of belonging and racial pride you would get in a quality HCBU. Let affirmative action die so that our own schools may not only live but thrive.

When the likes of sanjit and duc dong realize that cacs aren't really that intelligent, but have power due to their racial status. Theyll probably start leaving those ivy league universities anyway. You can have all the degrees you want but if at the end of the day the cacs just see you as a robot that is good at crunching numbers and not a possible leader, you end up realizing you got scammed. As someone already said earlier in this thread other groups stay getting hustled because they lust for the prestige of the ivy league.

Black people need to stop expecting people who dont care about us to have our interests at heart and should be propping up our own industries where we will be accepted with open arms instead of tolerated or used as a marketing tool and shield for criticism.

I agree with the general message, but just because AA dies, doesn't mean HBCU will be growing drastically (but they'll increase), these kids will just slide down to secondaries. Folks lowkey think these schools are inferior, and they don't want to attend them like their PWIs

 

[Jemmy]

Oh well. We will just send our kids to HBCU's and let the whites and asians duke it out.

A lot of universities don't even admit African Americans but accept Africans instead to meet quota.

Along with sending our best athletes to HBCU’s. Start with parents threatening to pull their student athlete children out of these colleges over this and they’ll shut up quickly. All that NCAA money coming back to us will create a shift.

 

[Problematic Pat]

Your response is not based on reality.

There are jobs that are only given to Ivy League Grad, I repeat, only given to Ivy Leaguers. Asian Americans know this and that's why they're grinding to remove quotas. By not stopping this, you have just killed the dreams of many high achieving black students.

Second, this doesn't have to be a choose one scenario. We can have both. Not everyone will make it to the top schools and if they want, they can attend a HBCU. You've watched too many episodes of A Different World.

Edit: And once you've eliminated the Black student from getting the Ivy League education, You're now going to need Affirmative Action to land him a job because his degree doesn't have the same recognition.

The Obamas, Eric Holders, Michael Eric Dyson, Skip Gates, Joy Reid, etc yeah we need less of those boot licking nikkaz that the Ivys create. What doors have they held open for other Black people?? Everyone that goes to the Ivys ain't a house nikka but majority of them are.

 

[AB Ziggy]

This lawsuit is gonna affect not just Ivy League schools, but also every post secondary institution, grad programs, phd programs, etc.

The end of affirmative action is gonna be much bigger than we realize.

 

[xoxodede]

Honestly, I don't see this as a fight as AADOS.

I think African Immigrants need to stomp the ground to fight against this issue. Because, they would be greatly affected.

 

[Tom Foolery]

The Obamas, Eric Holders, Michael Eric Dyson, Skip Gates, Joy Reid, etc yeah we need less of those boot licking nikkaz that the Ivys create. What doors have they held open for other Black people?? Everyone that goes to the Ivys ain't a house nikka but majority of them are.

Because you believe they haven't held doors open is a reason to get rid of affirmative action? This make no sense.


And tell me what's really so poppin' at these HBCU's? Because last time I check, they were crying for the same jobs these so called 'boot licking nikkaz' get offered.


End affirmative action and kill any chance HBCUs graduates have getting a gig at a top company brehs.

 

[Firefly]

The nerve of these people. Maybe if they didn't cheat so much they would have the proper amount of spots for the few Asians that actually earn their way in.

Unpacking the August SAT Cheating Scandal
SAT Scores of Asian Students Cancelled Over Cheating
Asian Immigrants and What No One Mentions Aloud
On Long Island, SAT Cheating Was Hardly a Secret
Foreign Students Seen Cheating More Than Domestic Ones
https://gizmodo.com/an-elaborate-test-cheating-scheme-in-asia-involved-hidd-1825320759

even wilder I know a college professor who makes bank on the side via helping Asian applicants with their applications. He told me the stuff they turn in is mostly talking about their parents and literally nothing interesting or even showing any emotion other than pride in what their parents do.

He livens it up and tries to make these people Non Machinelike in the application process. Their culture is based on test results. All the extra curricular culture shyt doesn't exist. He charges them like $500 a pop and eats just making people not seem like robots. Told me this directly.

I had no idea it was a hustle and he says yeah, they even pay for their kids to live with someone to finish highschool to improve chances to get into a school.AND PAY BANK. They're bragging about test scores and folks are like "tell us about your life, what do you like to do? Well I like to read and study for my tests"

 

[Scustin Bieburr]

Your response is not based on reality.

There are jobs that are only given to Ivy League Grad, I repeat, only given to Ivy Leaguers. Asian Americans know this and that's why they're grinding to remove quotas. By not stopping this, you have just killed the dreams of many high achieving black students.

Second, this doesn't have to be a choose one scenario. We can have both. Not everyone will make it to the top schools and if they want, they can attend a HBCU. You've watched too many episodes of A Different World.

Edit: And once you've eliminated the Black student from getting the Ivy League education, You're now going to need Affirmative Action to land him a job because his degree doesn't have the same recognition.

Breh, youre black first and an ivy league grad second. As Obama has shown us, it doesn't matter how eloquent, intelligent or rational you are. They will disrespect you and bar you from opportunities. If you are hired, you're hired as a c00n to meet diversity quotas and they screen for any black self esteem during the interview. You dont need an ivy league education to be successful in America you just need supporters, good fortune and the self esteem and pride to want to do your own thing.

I also really resent the idea of a HCBU as a consolation. This goes back to my point of black people willing to rather walk on eggshells around non black people rather than come together and go to spaces where they are wanted rather than tolerated or used. This isn't the 90s. Internet is a game changer and people who dont have prestigious degrees get recognized by large organizations of the strength off their work that gets shared online. I would much rather be part of a network of fellow black people than be a token in a prestigious company.

 

[HarlemHottie]

Breh, youre black first and an ivy league grad second. As Obama has shown us, it doesn't matter how eloquent, intelligent or rational you are. They will disrespect you and bar you from opportunities.

Ngl, I went to an Ivy and the shyt white ppl offer me for absolutely no reason is... impressive.

But! The caveat is always that they deep down expect me to be a c00n.

An aside, the AA Ivy Leaguers I know are not doing well compared to the foreign blacks I know.

 

[Take It In Blood]

its cool to be a c00n now with this Blexit sh1t and all these black conservatives getting so many hits on social media

not surprising at all

the generation after us gonna look back at our c00n asses in disgust (hopefully)