No Poison No Paradise - The Official Detroit Lions 2014 Offseason Thread

[Knights89]

2 te, 2wrs set with Petti, Fauria and Calvin and Tate will be a staple
The third wide receiver be it be a rookie or Durham lol plus a TE

Hell get creative and put Bush and Bell on the field at the same time.

Ihegibo left without a deal, maybe they like one in the draft

 

[eastside313]

5. Brandon Pettigrew

2013 Grade: -8.02013 Snaps: 925

Pettigrew is another member of this free agent class who just seems ill-suited to be the #1 TE on a team. He is big-bodied, willing blocker, but has been a disappointment since being drafted with the 20th overall pick in 2009. Despite possessing the body and being asked to block more than receive, Pettigrew only had one above average run-blocking performance of the season. Additionally, the lumbering TE was below average in the passing game as well, resulting in negative grades in run-blocking (-9.1) and receiving (-4.3).

Detroit GM Martin Mayhew has said the Lions are looking to bring back Pettigrew, but they should be able to do better. With Joseph Fauria showing he can be a dynamic weapon in the passing game, especially in the red zone, Pettigrew would have to take a cheaper deal to stick around. With Detroit looking to replicate the Saints’ playbook in 2014, we should see some multiple tight end looks for the Lions soon.

https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2014/02/23/ranking-the-2014-free-agents-tight-ends/

 

[eastside313]

Its a good move at that price. Got half of what pitta got. Just hope fauria becomes big time player

I'd rather pay him that modest salary than draft a te in the first 3 rounds.

Real contract is only a 3 year deal.

34 drops and 6 fumbles in 5 years. I would bet my last dollar he led all tight ends in those stats.

Have y'all not been watching this scrub for the past 5 years.

Sign a real blocking te and draft one in the middle rds and you got fauria. That money they gave pettigrew coulda went to jAred Allen or Julius peppers or that safety that left town without a deal.

 

[djthegreat88]

34 drops and 6 fumbles in 5 years. I would bet my last dollar he led all tight ends in those stats.

Have y'all not been watching this scrub for the past 5 years.

Sign a real blocking te and draft one in the middle rds and you got fauria. That money they gave pettigrew coulda went to jAred Allen or Julius peppers or that safety that left town without a deal.

Pettigrew is solid. Above avg blocker for his position and okay receiver. He was not that bad last year. Cj, durham, bush, and bell all had big drops or fumbles last year, it was everyone. I expect fauria to have a larger role this year as the pass catching te. Teams can do worse than combo of fauria and pettigrew. There are a lot of holes to fill, te situation is solved. Lions can find money if they need to. They can easily restructure cj deal free up some more money. And the S from ravens won't cost that much.

 

[eastside313]

Pettigrew is solid. Above avg blocker for his position and okay receiver. He was not that bad last year. Cj, durham, bush, and bell all had big drops or fumbles last year, it was everyone. I expect fauria to have a larger role this year as the pass catching te. Teams can do worse than combo of fauria and pettigrew. There are a lot of holes to fill, te situation is solved. Lions can find money if they need to. They can easily restructure cj deal free up some more money. And the S from ravens won't cost that much.

Too bad the professionals scouters at profootballfocus Don't agree with your assessment of pettigrews blocking. You don't know the ramifications of cj contract to say what they can easily do. Pettigrew has been bad for 5 years. He had a good 4 game stretch after being benched and his role in the offense being reduced and you say he was not that bad last year. Oh yeah why did he get benched again.

 

[djthegreat88]

Too bad the professionals scouters at profootballfocus Don't agree with your assessment of pettigrews blocking. You don't know the ramifications of cj contract to say what they can easily do. Pettigrew has been bad for 5 years. He had a good 4 game stretch after being benched and his role in the offense being reduced and you say he was not that bad last year. Oh yeah why did he get benched again.

From mlive: If the Lions do need space, cap space is fluid. The team could perform simple contract restructures, most notably with Calvin Johnson. By reducing the wide receiver's base salary to $1 million in 2014, it would clear more than $3 million in 2014 with a minimal impact on future years.

The lions cap issues are due to old rookie wage scale, not contract restructures.

Throughout college and nfl pettigrew has always been a quality blocker. He has been mediocre for 5 years not bad. And has shown flashes of being an above avg complete te. How do you complain about not resigning our rotational pass rushing specialist with his 3 sacks for 3 million a year but let our starting te leave for 4 million a year? Fauria has good hands and size but is a horrible blocker and slow. Williams wasnt even that good of a college te. Lions have enough holes on roster, cross te off the list.

 

[eastside313]

From mlive: If the Lions do need space, cap space is fluid. The team could perform simple contract restructures, most notably with Calvin Johnson. By reducing the wide receiver's base salary to $1 million in 2014, it would clear more than $3 million in 2014 with a minimal impact on future years.

The lions cap issues are due to old rookie wage scale, not contract restructures.

Throughout college and nfl pettigrew has always been a quality blocker. He has been mediocre for 5 years not bad. And has shown flashes of being an above avg complete te. How do you complain about not resigning our rotational pass rushing specialist with his 3 sacks for 3 million a year but let our starting te leave for 4 million a year? Fauria has good hands and size but is a horrible blocker and slow. Williams wasnt even that good of a college te. Lions have enough holes on roster, cross te off the list.

Good teams don't keep mediocre players bruh. If you wanna keep telling yourself that pettigrew is a good blocker than go right ahead. Just ignore what the people who make their living by grading out players and watching every play say. And you talk about how devin Taylor looked at the end of last season, fauria held his own when he got more reps after pettigrew got hurt. Did u just call fauria slow while discussing pettigrew aka captain no yac with his big slow slu footed ass.

 

[djthegreat88]

Good teams don't keep mediocre players bruh. If you wanna keep telling yourself that pettigrew is a good blocker than go right ahead. Just ignore what the people who make their living by grading out players and watching every play say. And you talk about how devin Taylor looked at the end of last season, fauria held his own when he got more reps after pettigrew got hurt. Did u just call fauria slow while discussing pettigrew aka captain no yac with his big slow slu footed ass.

Mediocre players make up about 75% of all nfl rosters. Mediocre players on Sea like kearse, smith, baldwin, miller, irvin, maxwell were all big parts of their championship team. Pettigrew aint an all pro but is a player that the other team has to account for. I like fauria potential but he has proven to be a one trick pony so far. Lets see how he does next year when teams take away his jump ball opportunities.

Some random scouting website says pettigrew had a bad year.Some professional scout also thought anthony bennet was worthy of being a #1 pick. Someone thought ryan leaf, , gholston, charles rogers, joey harrington, aaron curry were great prospects. Mel kiper thought mike mike williams was a future hall of famer. Mike mayock thought robert ayers was going to be a stud. And going by advanced stats doesnt always tell the whole story. Mike trout should have two of miguel cabrera mvp trophies if we only looked at advanced stats.

 

[eastside313]

Mediocre players make up about 75% of all nfl rosters. Mediocre players on Sea like kearse, smith, baldwin, miller, irvin, maxwell were all big parts of their championship team. Pettigrew aint an all pro but is a player that the other team has to account for. I like fauria potential but he has proven to be a one trick pony so far. Lets see how he does next year when teams take away his jump ball opportunities.

Some random scouting website says pettigrew had a bad year.Some professional scout also thought anthony bennet was worthy of being a #1 pick. Someone thought ryan leaf, , gholston, charles rogers, joey harrington, aaron curry were great prospects. Mel kiper thought mike mike williams was a future hall of famer. Mike mayock thought robert ayers was going to be a stud. And going by advanced stats doesnt always tell the whole story. Mike trout should have two of miguel cabrera mvp trophies if we only looked at advanced stats.

Bruh carry on. You just said a whole bunch of nothin. Keep defending bad play and thinking offense solves all the problems. Smh somebody riding for pettigrew of all people. Nobody is talkin about prospects we talking about a player with 5 years of below average nfl play. A player who has been graded on his play not what people think he might do.

 

[Regular_P]

I can't believe we have a Pettibust stan in the ranks.

 

[djthegreat88]

Pettigrew is what he is. I aint stanning him. I have always be indifferent about whether he should be brought back or not. Im just saying the lions can do worse at the TE position and there a bigger needs on this team than finding a new TE. Its not like there was some cb, de, s, or lb that the lions could have gotten at this time with the pettigrew price tag that would make a significant difference. Pepper and allen were out of lions price range and safety and cb market was too rich for lions this year too. You will not have stud player at every position. And the offense is the reason this team collapse last year, not the defense.

 

[Knights89]

for 5.5 million , I would have picked it up

As it stands right now, Detroit Lions defensive tackle Nick Fairley is set to become an unrestricted free agent next offseason. The Lions had an opportunity to extend Fairley's deal by one year by picking up the fifth-year option in his contract, but the team decided against doing that. Lions general manager Martin Mayhew announced the decision on Monday.



This isn't the first time the Lions have provided some motivation for Fairley this year. Earlier in the offseason, Mayhew said that Fairley needs to "mature as a professional," and he also said that Fairley would benefit from "repositioning" some of his weight.

Clearly, the Lions aren't sold on Fairley beyond 2014. Had they picked up the fifth-year option, Fairley would have gotten about $5.5 million for 2015, but the Lions don't think he's worth that as of right now. This means that he will hit the open market a year from now unless he impresses the Lions enough this upcoming season to earn an extension.

We'll probaly have news on a safety in the next couple of days. Clemons from MIa, or Iheigbo from the Ravens possibly

 

[Regular_P]

I'm not mad at them declining Fairley's option. Too streaky and never in shape. I'd love it if they could somehow get a first rounder for him.

 

[eastside313]

I'm not mad at them declining Fairley's option. Too streaky and never in shape. I'd love it if they could somehow get a first rounder for him.

I'd love for Toni Braxton to make sweet love to my body

They can't afford to pay fairley when they bout to give suh 15 mill a year

 

[eastside313]

Detroit Lions say they absolutely are not considering trading Mikel Leshoure
ORLANDO -- The Detroit Lions say they absolutely are not considering trading displaced tailback Mikel Leshoure.

General manager Martin Mayhew has said it before, and was unequivocal on the topic once again Monday during the NFL owners meetings at the Ritz-Carlton Orlando Grande Lakes hotel.

"I haven't had any interest in trading Mikel," Mayhew said. "I want to see him come in and perform and be the player he can be."

Leshoure was selected by the Lions in the second round of the 2011 draft, and he led the team with 798 rushing yards in 2012. But he became an afterthought last season after the signing of Reggie Bush, emergence of Joique Bell and selection of rookie Theo Riddikk.

He was the fourth tailback on a club that doesn't dress four tailbacks. He was active just three times, and had two carries for 9 yards.

Detroit has a surfeit of depth at the position, with Bush under contract for three more season, Bell re-signed for three more seasons and Riddikk entering just his second year.

The club also has two fullbacks in Jed Collins and Montell Owens, the latter of whom is a fullback/tailback hybrid. And that makes for a crowded backfield.

Leshoure, a former second-rounder, would seem like a candidate for a trade. But Mayhew isn't having it.

"I haven't talked to anybody down here about any trade -- about any trading for anything," Mayhew said, with Dallas owner Jerry Jones sitting just a table away. "A pick, a player, anything like that."

Mayhew, like team president Tom Lewand last week, referenced new offensive coordinator Joe Lombardi as a guy who has used a multitude of tailbacks in New Orleans.

He likes the stable Detroit has built -- something he repeated multiple times -- and hopes Leshoure finds a way to crack the rotation.

"Guys who make plays get carries, you know?" Mayhew said of Leshoure. "You go back and look at the New Orleans offense, which is what encouraged me about Joe, I mean, Pierre Thomas had a role, (Darren) Sproles had a role, Mark Ingram had a role, at one point Chris Ivory had a role when he was with them. They found a way to utilize guys who can make plays.

"Let me put it like this: Offensive coordinators and head coaches want to get the ball into the hands of guys who can make plays. So if you make plays, you get touches."

Yeah I'm sure teams are blowing the phones up asking for leshoure



Y'all know James jones signed for 3 years at 11 mill Where the Fukk was Mayhew on that one. That's a steal.