No disrespect to AD but in todays nfl im not giving a mvp to a RB

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Brady and Manning are two of the best players in the history of the sport at the most important position in the sport. They are by far the most important players on their teams. As is any elite QB.

Now you're talking all time shyt. We talking about THIS YEAR. This year AD is clearly more valuable then anyone as he literally has his team in playoff contention with no help anywhere else. Yeah Manning is the most important player on his team as is Brady. You saying AD isnt the most important player on his team? :ohlawd:
 

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Now you're talking all time shyt. We talking about THIS YEAR. This year AD is clearly more valuable then anyone as he literally has his team in playoff contention with no help anywhere else. Yeah Manning is the most important player on his team as is Brady. You saying AD isnt the most important player on his team? :ohlawd:

I've already stated I have zero issue with Peterson winning MVP. He's having an incredible season.

The point I was making though is if Manning were on the Vikings without Peterson, they'd be a better team than they are now.
 

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The point I was making though is if Manning were on the Vikings without Peterson, they'd be a better team than they are now.

And what makes u say this? What proof u have? what does that have to do with MVP talk? you realize unless the Broncos win the SB this year or even make it to the AFC ship game then that team is just as good as the Tebow team who won a playoff game. Well according to your logic. So what if they get Bounced in the first playoff game? do we have the right to say that team was better without Manning?
 

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And what makes u say this? What proof u have?

Having one of the best QB's of all time on your team makes a pretty big difference.

Denver is a top 3 offense in DVOA this season. They were 23rd last season.
 

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I've already stated I have zero issue with Peterson winning MVP. He's having an incredible season.

The point I was making though is if Manning were on the Vikings without Peterson, they'd be a better team than they are now.

This is where I have a problem with people shytting on Ponder, Michael fukking Jenkins is one of his main targets.

The Vikings have NOTHING on the outside. Percy Harvin is the only skill player on that team that's worth a damn outside of AD.
 

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Having one of the best QB's of all time on your team makes a pretty big difference.

Denver is a top 3 offense in DVOA this season. They were 23rd last season.

And having one of the best RB's of all time makes a pretty big difference as well. QB is given way too much credit.
 
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LMAO@ you holding "experts" opinions like its facts. Any "fan" who goes off experts opinions is a casual dikk riding fan. I bet you agree with pro bowl voting too. fukk outta here fakkit. Everyone even in here disagreeing with your bytch ass. I dont care if Rodgers isnt in the MVP talk because he doesn't deserve it. Neither do Brady or Peyton. AD is the clear MVP candidate. Enuff said. Go ahead and reply with your shytty opinions breh

Smh dummy, you still don't get it....I'm not taking their opinions as facts (an ironic and idiotic claim you proceed to cite folks in this thread:dead:), I'm citing them as clear evidence that those two are in the running. I could pull up threads on here that show they're in the running as well, but I won't bother cuz you're just mad no ones talking about Rodgers.

Get over it, chump.:umad:
 

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It'd be awesome to see Peterson get the MVP, but they will give it to Peyton...and i won't have a problem with that either.

Peyton Manning always wins the MVP when somebody runs for 2K yards. :heh:
Jamal Lewis in 2003...Peyton & McNair
Chris Johnson in 2009...Peyton
Adrian Peterson in 2012...Peyton
 

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This is where I have a problem with people shytting on Ponder, Michael fukking Jenkins is one of his main targets.

The Vikings have NOTHING on the outside. Percy Harvin is the only skill player on that team that's worth a damn outside of AD.

QB's make their skill players for the most part.

Did Brandon Marshall suddenly suck in Miami. Or Fitz in Arizona?

Brandon Stokley is having a crazy season according to the advanced metrics. Dude wasnt even in football last year.
 

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Smh dummy, you still don't get it....I'm not taking their opinions as facts (an ironic and idiotic claim you proceed to cite folks in this thread:dead:), I'm citing them as clear evidence that those two are in the running. I could pull up threads on here that show they're in the running as well, but I won't bother cuz you're just mad no ones talking about Rodgers.

Get over it, chump.:umad:

You need some reading classes breh? I dont give a fukk about Rodgers not being in the talks. My whole point of bringing him up is because he's having a better year then both but its not MVP worthy. U that damn slow to understand the point? Either way im not gonna reply to your shytty responses cuz you clearly a lost cause. Just know AD is clearly the MVP. I know it makes your soul burn to hear that fukking c00n ass house nikka
 

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QB's make their skill players for the most part.

Did Brandon Marshall suddenly suck in Miami. Or Fitz in Arizona?

Brandon Stokley is having a crazy season according to the advanced metrics. Dude wasnt even in football last year.

Marshall had 80+ catches both years in Miami.

Larry despite the QB situation has had at least 80 in every year except 2.

Fair point about Stokley though.
 

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If you tryna argued AD is more valuable to the Vikings than any other player is to their respective teams, thinkm you'll hear no argument from me.

I'm arguing about the most valuable player in the league...and I'd take those two QBs over AD.

Yes that's what i'm trying to argue. The MVP award should be who is most valuable to their team's success. That, by definition, makes him most valuable in the league. How else can you determine it? By trying to guess how guys would do if they were on other teams? Miss me with that fantasy shyt.
 

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AP should win the MVP and the comeback player of the year. People fail to realize that AP ripped his knee up (ACL & MCL) Dude didn't even miss any games in 2012. Maning took an entire year off in 2011 to heal and recover. Peterson has Christian Ponder, (yes Ponder) Teams stanck the line of scrimmage on AP, and he still balls the fuc out.
 
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Yes that's what i'm trying to argue. The MVP award should be who is most valuable to their team's success. That, by definition, makes him most valuable in the league. How else can you determine it? By trying to guess how guys would do if they were on other teams? Miss me with that fantasy shyt.

No, it doesn't. It makes him the most valuable player to his team, not the most valuable player in the league.

We don't agree on the definition, we'll never agree on the recipient.:yeshrug:
 

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No, it doesn't. It makes him the most valuable player to his team, not the most valuable player in the league.

We don't agree on the definition, we'll never agree on the recipient.:yeshrug:

If he's more valuable to his team than any other player is to their team, that makes him most valuable in the league to me.
 
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