Nina Turner eyes Marcia Fudge's Ohio U.S. House seat: Turner EATS BOWL OF SH!T to Brown

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you've seen several people say it because it matters to low information voters

on attack ads: 1) if it turns off "peaceable voters" then that should hurt both people doing them, making it a wash. i would even assume that undecideds and liberals hate attack ads more than progressives and green party types, so it might be a slight benefit to turner to let it be as rough as possible. i could be wrong.

establishment people have at least one narrative; that of continuity/steady hand/familiarity, trustworthiness, etc. if i lived in that media market, i could probably suss out even more of a narrative for brown

What Does Progressive Darling Nina Turner’s Loss in Ohio Say About the Democratic Party?
"Shontel Brown—the chosen candidate of the caucus—would honor “the rich history” of the group, not be someone who fights against it while “trying to make a name for themselves,” CBC Chairwoman Joyce Beatty (D-Ohio) said while campaigning in the district Saturday with other top Black lawmakers. Brown wouldn’t be “a single solitary know-it-all,” said Rep. Bennie Thompson (D-Miss.). She wouldn’t “come in and try to break up that unity,” Rep. Gregory Meeks (D-N.Y.) added."

a non-issues voter will make a narrative out of this...
Not at all, and I see where the disconnect is for you.

Attack ads don't usually work, but when they run with a specific narrative, or align with a certain sentiment, then they succeed. For low-information voters, particularly the suburban and middle-class kind - they've been fed a certain narrative that aligned with Brown's campaign. And the narrative long predates this race.

The establishment narrative works on its popular demographic, but does nothing for the disinterested. - which was heavily in Nina's favor.

The problem here was simply that the turnout for Black urban voters was so low, that even with overwhelming popularity in those communities, she couldn't make up for the large suburban voting blocs :ehh:
The Rep. and Sen. quotes are just posturing.
 
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Not at all, and I see where the disconnect is for you.

Attack ads don't usually work, but when they run with a specific narrative, or align with a certain sentiment, then they succeed. For low-information voters, particularly the suburban and middle-class kind - they've been fed a certain narrative that aligned with Brown's campaign. And the narrative long predates this race.

The establishment narrative works on its popular demographic, but does nothing for the disinterested. - which was heavily in Nina's favor.

The problem here was simply that the turnout for Black urban voters was so low, that even with overwhelming popularity in those communities, she couldn't make up for the large suburban voting blocs :ehh:
The Rep. and Sen. quotes are just posturing.
why was the turnout so low?
 

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why was the turnout so low?
Felony disenfranchisement, lack of information about the vote itself (unless you happen to be watching ABC on 5 at 10 AM you didn't hear about), and the community has been fukked for decades - most of the people that live there are largely disinterested in anything electoral.

The Ohio voter purges did a number on the East Side communities as well.

We ran a voter registration campaign there some years ago and got an unbelievable number of people re-registered.
 

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these types of tweets feel so disingenuous. i would love for them to go one step further and ask themselves if what the party actually does outside of election years looks like it comes from a party that has older black folk as its base. the "brogressives" arent the only ones failing to center them...
 

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Briahna Joy Gray, host of Bad Faith podcast, discusses the results of the Ohio special primary election.

Yeesh....if the average Democrat voter thinks like how Briahna Joy Gray described them in this interview, progressives are fucced. Kyle Kulinski & others are never gonna get their pipedream, a left-wing version of the Tea Party movement, if average Dems love the establishment so much.
 
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