Nina Turner eyes Marcia Fudge's Ohio U.S. House seat: Turner EATS BOWL OF SH!T to Brown

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The Bernie Sanders wing of the party loses elections bc they give off the sense of being entitled ass scumbags who think it's unfathomable that Black ppl don't crawl on their knees to vote for them.

I always said that they have the energy and that once they figure out the politics that they'll begin to win more elections.

There is an alderman calros Rosa in Chicago who is starting to figure shyt out. He will probably run for mayor against Lightfoot. I think she will still win bc Chicago isn't DSA country but he is realizing that you can be socialist etc but still recognize and be realistic about the system under which we currently operate.
 

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People like Turner just aren’t electable outside deep partisan districts or ethnic enclaves
 

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Progressives only make up a small percentage of the Democratic party. What have moderates done besides helping out their corporate constituents and pretending like they will do anything good for the country and backtracking when they get in office? What has the black community gained by handing their votes to these con artists every damn election year?

Bunch of excuses. Until ya stop being hardheaded and stop the name calling, the election losses are gonna keep on coming. Keep listening to these left wing hairy glasses wearing trust fund white boys and you gonna keep having Nina Turner, Cenk, etc., election blowouts.
 

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I don’t think anyone here has their head in the sand. Most of us agree with you, but it’s a race where they don’t apply. The fact that Nina did all those things is why people thought she would win. I generally agree with you but this whole preachy tone people are taking isn’t doing anything but further demoralizing people. This is what you say before a race, not after, and not when the losing candidate did all that and still lost to corporate money. The biggest cash influx in the end was millions for the Israeli lobby which proved to be effective but the take away is to talk about people management? Nina’s issue - and anyone running - is that being too critical will get popular figures in the party and vote bundlers against you. I feel like we have all said ad nauseum that people vote on a long list of things before policy.

We do have the brain power to figure out humans - the entire squad won because they were fixtures in their communities. But they probably all would’ve lost the first time if they had been taken as seriously as Nina was. The natural takeaway from your strategy is as @mastermind was saying - basically start from the smallest community seats and work your way up - which is what has happened all over places like NY. We focus on the high profile races where we field candidates because we should and ignore the smaller races. The left isn’t doing as bad as you think. They’re just not in a place where they can win a race like this yet when local leaders AND PACs push the button. Remember that Tom Perrielo lost governor to Northam despite having Obama, Sanders, money and ever progressive group behind him. Why? Because local black leaders ushered the voters to him. Did former Obama alum Perrielo fail the people game when the damn former black president came to campaign for him?
the preachy tone is in the people saying the voters dont know what's good for them and "cant help those who refuse to help themselves", etc. the same mess that causes rose twitter to be counterproductive during elections, and allows for people to not learn anything new for the next battle. this is getting old.

as far as i can tell, nina turner had more money. the problem is her narrative wasnt working enough. brown got more with less money. that should cause people to reflect instead of deflect.
 

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The Bernie Sanders wing of the party loses elections bc they give off the sense of being entitled ass scumbags who think it's unfathomable that Black ppl don't crawl on their knees to vote for them.

I always said that they have the energy and that once they figure out the politics that they'll begin to win more elections.

There is an alderman calros Rosa in Chicago who is starting to figure shyt out. He will probably run for mayor against Lightfoot. I think she will still win bc Chicago isn't DSA country but he is realizing that you can be socialist etc but still recognize and be realistic about the system under which we currently operate.
This is interesting. Can you share more?
 

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i havent listened to this podcast yet, but it seems she was aware of the pattern with the two sanders campaigns but her campaign manager just did not adjust...
 
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