Nina Turner eyes Marcia Fudge's Ohio U.S. House seat: Turner EATS BOWL OF SH!T to Brown

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Can't help those who refuse to help themselves. Not sure what the answer is here.

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she blew a 40 point lead? :heh:
It’s almost like denigrating the party whose primary you want to compete in is not a good idea.
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These idiots keep doing the same shyt. Instead of running as leftists looking to work with Biden/democrats they can’t help but try this bullshyt. It gets you many retweets and racks in donation money but doesn’t win shyt unless you’re in New York…
 
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It’s almost like denigrating the party whose primary you want to compete in is not a good idea.
:heh:

These idiots keep doing the same shyt. Instead of running as leftists looking to work with Biden/democrats they can’t help but try this bullshyt. It gets you many retweets and racks in donation money but doesn’t win shyt unless you’re in New York…

Black Boomers and Gen-Xers who vote regularly trust the Democratic Party. :manny:

It is what it is. You have to work with or be within the party to win in most districts that are heavy with black voters in this country.
 

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Black Boomers and Gen-Xers who vote regularly trust the Democratic Party. :manny:

It is what it is. You have to work with or be within the party to win in most districts that are heavy with black voters in this country.
Leftists refuse to acknowledge this. The Democrat party is a powerful brand. Denigrating it is only going to make regular, loyal democrat voters think something is wrong about you. Ironically Bernie is giving these people a blueprint for how to operate: praise President Biden while simultaneously advocating your (different) policies. Democrat voters like the president and the party, maybe you should cater to them instead of white leftists who don’t even live in your district.

This is simple math. For the life of me I can’t understand why they don’t figure this out. If you plan to bring in newer (whiter) leftist voters your best shyt at winning is lowering the amount of loyal Democrat/liberal voters who support your opponent. Even winning a small percentage of them can make it easier for you to win. Yet instead leftists decide the best way is to shyt talk Obama, Biden, Pelosi, etc.
 

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Leftists refuse to acknowledge this. The Democrat party is a powerful brand. Denigrating it is only going to make regular, loyal democrat voters think something is wrong about you. Ironically Bernie is giving these people a blueprint for how to operate: praise President Biden while simultaneously advocating your (different) policies. Democrat voters like the president and the party, maybe you should cater to them instead of white leftists who don’t even live in your district.

This is simple math. For the life of me I can’t understand why they don’t figure this out. If you plan to bring in newer (whiter) leftist voters your best shyt at winning is lowering the amount of loyal Democrat/liberal voters who support your opponent. Even winning a small percentage of them can make it easier for you to win. Yet instead leftists decide the best way is to shyt talk Obama, Biden, Pelosi, etc.
 
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It’s almost like denigrating the party whose primary you want to compete in is not a good idea.
:heh:

These idiots keep doing the same shyt. Instead of running as leftists looking to work with Biden/democrats they can’t help but try this bullshyt. It gets you many retweets and racks in donation money but doesn’t win shyt unless you’re in New York…
That’s the exact campaign she ran you pedantic idiot. Does anyone like hearing their own voice more than you? It’s like you copied and pasted this shyt and think you’re dropping knowledge every time you say it. The exact reason everyone on the establishment came down on her at the end is because she ran exactly that sort of campaign.
 

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be more tangibly valuable to black people on a local level outside of electoral politics. the panthers already showed the way with their programs and education. that is why they had to be destroyed. having white people show up every 4 years only works for establishment people because in the off-season, they do feed their black vote bundlers with government jobs and whatnot. the left has almost no consistent presence in black society, and no recent history to run on.
WHITE progressives came in thinking they could run the show and I keep telling yall that black people are NOT going to be hoed by these class reductionist pussies.
 

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forgetting about nina for a moment, what has the left been doing to 1) make life better 2) make people more educated on structural class analysis in ohio in the last decade? im not from there, so i dont really know but i doubt there is much more than politically timed rallies.
Nina attacked Clyburn FIRST
 

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It’s almost like denigrating the party whose primary you want to compete in is not a good idea.
:heh:

These idiots keep doing the same shyt. Instead of running as leftists looking to work with Biden/democrats they can’t help but try this bullshyt. It gets you many retweets and racks in donation money but doesn’t win shyt unless you’re in New York…
Ive been warning people about these white class reductionist leftists trying to undermine black people
 

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Yea sir going after work
I didn’t know you’re a fellow OH11 resident, I voted too but they switched up my polling place so I was out here scrambling.
No reason any Bernie voter should've felt good/comfortable sitting on the sideline. It's crazy to me. The "I would vote for Bernie if he won the primary" crowd continues to die. I would love to see how many Bernie voters from OH11 voted for him last spring. Then I would like to know how many of them sat out and of those that did how many WEREN'T contacted.

IMO no Bernie voter should have been left alone.
I voted for Bernie in the spring and most of the contact I got was from the Brown campaign (I’d say by a 2 to 1 margin in terms of texts/flyers I got from both campaigns). We also got swarmed with anti Turner ads on TV and YouTube.
 

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WHITE progressives came in thinking they could run the show and I keep telling yall that black people are NOT going to be hoed by these class reductionist pussies.
i agree. progressives cant hoe or do anything with the black vote at this moment. however, getting hoed by the establishment is not a great situation either. was nina engaging in class reductionism?
Nina attacked Clyburn FIRST
i dont know how this is relevant to my statement...anyway, it is clyburn's prerogative to make sure the establishment wins in areas with significant black votes even if she doesnt attack him. there is no love lost. there was going to be a fight no matter what
 
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