NFL. The official what have we learned week 4

[smitty22]

New Orleans Saints to Induct Former Ohio State Defensive End Will Smith into Ring of Honor This Weekend

@portcityplaya @b. woods @SubZeroDegrees :buckeyesalute:

 

[PortCityProphet]

New Orleans Saints to Induct Former Ohio State Defensive End Will Smith into Ring of Honor This Weekend

@portcityplaya @b. woods @SubZeroDegrees :buckeyesalute:

The originator of the N.O.SU pipeline

 

[b. woods]

New Orleans Saints to Induct Former Ohio State Defensive End Will Smith into Ring of Honor This Weekend

@portcityplaya @b. woods @SubZeroDegrees :buckeyesalute:

He deserves it for all of those years he put in work as our ONLY true pass rusher.

Sadly, he will not be here to partake in this honor.

"The Fresh Prince"

 

[KingsnBucs1987]

At the end of the day the NFL is a coaches league.

Jameis from being potentially out the league to prob getting at least to a missed kick away from being in first place with the inside track on winning the division. MIght get one of those tannehill type extensions at the very least

Saints and panthers winning with backups.

Reich should be 3-1 with Brissett

Yep, Arians actually tried to coach him up instead of looking for any excuse to get him out of there.

Koetter was lookin' to protect his own neck and now look at Atlanta, they're running our old scheme and their offense looks trash now.

 

[Bboystyle]

As the most anti-Seattle poster here over the last 5 years...you’re wrong on this one. Saints and Seahawks are the only real contenders in the NFC.

 

[KingsnBucs1987]

Bruce gonna have Winston balling this weekend against the Saints. I hate the say it, but I wouldn't be surprised if it's a 30-20 game if we got Bridgewater throwing 7 yard flea flickers and Kamara starts to get bottled up.

This game scares me cause this Saints defense is a scary site. If the line can hold up, we got a shot.

If we can jump out to an early 10-0 lead and make Teddy have to best us, then I like our chances.

We can't let Kamara get off

 

[Sghost597]

This game scares me cause this Saints defense is a scary site. If the line can hold up, we got a shot.

If we can jump out to an early 10-0 lead and make Teddy have to best us, then I like our chances.

We can't let Kamara get off

We got to get our weakness(Bridgewater passing down field) to attack your weakness( Pass defense). Then, we got to capitalize on Winston inability to protect the ball and turn To to TDs.

I feel like we have zero chance to win like we've done the past two weeks.

I know Bruce is gonna be aggressive to beat us without Brees. This game could determine the division and who stuck trailing in 2nd place. I don't feel good about this game at all. Payton can outcoach bad/ arrogant coaches with Bridgewater, but Bruce is gonna have those boys coming into our dome angry.

 

[Lootpack]

As the most anti-Seattle poster here over the last 5 years...you’re wrong on this one. Saints and Seahawks are the only real contenders in the NFC.

 

[WesCrook]

Yep, Arians actually tried to coach him up instead of looking for any excuse to get him out of there.

Koetter was lookin' to protect his own neck and now look at Atlanta, they're running our old scheme and their offense looks trash now.

Seems like he focused on the problem at its core and worked with Winston to fix it.

 

[KingsnBucs1987]

We got to get our weakness(Bridgewater passing down field) to attack your weakness( Pass defense). Then, we got to capitalize on Winston inability to protect the ball and turn To to TDs.

I feel like we have zero chance to win like we've done the past two weeks.

I know Bruce is gonna be aggressive to beat us without Brees. This game could determine the division and who stuck trailing in 2nd place. I don't feel good about this game at all. Payton can outcoach bad/ arrogant coaches with Bridgewater, but Bruce is gonna have those boys coming into our dome angry.

It's kinda funny, this game matches weakness vs weakness in a weird way, y'all gotta hope Teddy can air it out and we gotta hope our secondary doesn't get torched by another back-up QB.

It's something with Winston's game that I noticed that caught me off guard, but I'm not surprised when I saw the stats for it.



He loves when teams blitz him, if you drop 7-8 dudes, then that's when the turnovers can happen cause everything is clogged up and that's when the hero mentality has a chance of popping up.

Honestly I can see the game coming down to the last possession on some 17-12 type shyt with you guys driving with the ball last and then in that situation, I don't know what the fukk is gonna happen then.

 

[KingsnBucs1987]

Seems like he focused on the problem at its core and worked with Winston to fix it.

Yup, they worked with him and told him that he doesn't have to be the hero or the face.

Winston's problem was that he was overthinking everything and putting all the pressure on himself to make a play instead of just letting things come to him. These last 3 games have been big for him in seeing that work, hopefully he keeps at it cause he's got all the talent in the world, he's just gotta stop thinking every situation is do or die

 

[tremonthustler1]

and your point is ? theres teams with a good position group that can be improved by getting a better other position group, and vice versa

That those issues for the most part are easier to remedy than QB.

right, right. like youve said, hall of famer superbowl winner nick foles was a first round pick groomed to be in such a position.

oh wait no he wasnt; he was a 3rd round pick and he was about to quit football a year before because no one in the league besides andy reid wanted him as a backup.

Who was stepping in for a QB Philly moved heaven and earth to trade up to #2 for. Even they subscribed to that logic. If anything Philly reinforced why even having a decent backup is a good idea if you can get it.

would he get fired any later if he didnt select a quarterback ? would the jets front office even LET HIM select a non-qb ? this is what Im saying. for the rebuilding team, hope is always with that 'qb' who needs to be drafted

Yes and Yes. For years all they did was take defensive linemen and thought they could address a QB by taking one every year later until one magically developed. That's how they wound up with Christian Hackenberg. He thought THAT was gonna buy him time and sell fans on hope. What proceeded to happen was that the team sucked and the QB's he picked were so bad he wouldn't let them see the field. Those picks were so bad, he took Darnold the following year and it didn't buy him time because he screwed up too many times.

the concept of 'building around the qb' is...trash
the concept of 'qb is the most important piece' is...trash

I don't disagree, but the concept of being a QB away and thinking nowadays you'll find it anywhere other than the first round of a draft is trash too now.

get what done? winning a football game is a team's accomplishment. don't really get why you keep wanting to go down this rabbit hole. why are there specifically quarterbacks who 'get it done' or 'don't get it done'. Why arent you saying this about cornerbacks, wide receivers, running backs, linemen ? the situation isnt any difference, you shouldnt be special if you are a qb. you suck, next man up.

But next man up is coming from where? If my receivers suck, theoretically I can find a WR in the middle rounds of a draft or free agency and not miss much of a beat. It's more likely that I can find those guys at other positions from wherever and still contend. Take a look at the starters now in the NFL at QB. Less than a third of them come from outside of round 1.

Brees- 2
Wilson- 3
Brady- 6
Foles- 3/Minshew 6
Dalton- 2
Prescott- 4
Carr- 2
Cousins- 4
Brissett- 3
Garoppolo- 2

this isnt about which round qb they are replaced by, this is about starting mediocre options and paying them big money instead of getting their replacements in the first place. something that doesnt happen with any other position, YES, including the RB position.

That is no different than say NBA free agency when players get overpaid. It's supply and demand and not wanting to come back empty handed. You pay a QB because a) you DO think he's really good and b) because you can't realistically let a player walk and then tell fans, "hey don't worry we have this 4th round QB who isn't as ready or as talented as the guy who left, we'll be fine" and expect to remain employed. If that QB was ready or talented, he wouldn't be in the 4th round anymore. Some team woulda reached for him in the first. That's how it works now. I'm not saying it's right. I'm saying that's how it is.

the chiefs were lucky that they were stacked and had a luxury of grabbing mahomes in the mid first and then letting him sit. they easily couldve stayed with alex smith and be competitive and playoff contenders. they chose to do exactly what we're saying they should do- upgrade to a cheap young talent instead of keeping average talent and paying him tons of money because hes a qb. they also lucked out mahomes is an incredible talent, but I could think of a few situations where mahomes career starts rocky instead.

Keyword= upgrade. How many upgrades at QB can you realistically expect to keep happening after every rookie deal ends?

 

[Brozay]

 

[bangbreh]

That wasn't "Tom Brady".
That's was a 6th round pick Patriot QB

 

[jdubnyce]

shook that shyt off :smugtom: