New York State Has Lowest Black Male Graduation Rate in US

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Its more than just zoning breh , problem is at the core of the education system. I think what your saying is if we put the higher class white school districts with the poor black districts thing would change?

It doesn't necessarily have to be higher class whites, it could be blacks as well.

If you factor in the various variables that plague schools such as Household income, race, disability, class size as well as per student expenditure, you will find that household income is the largest factor behind instability issues at schools. Once again i'm too lazy right now to present the evidence take me with a grain i got a headache right now :snoop:
 

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At the end of the day, it comes down to parenting not the schools. When I was in elementary school, everyday I would come home my parents go over my homework with me and made sure it was correct and I understood how to do it. Through junior high, they didn't really check it as much, but they held me to very high standards and expectations when it came to my grades. Going through school, I would see students hyped for getting Cs or just passing. I could never bring that shyt home to my parents and there was no excuse for getting below an A in any class. (They're Jamaican, they ain't play that shyt).

Through elementary and junior high my father used to take me and my brothers in our basement every Sunday morning and teach us calculus, so we were years beyond our grade in that subject. I never had to study for any math class... ...ever, even through college because I pretty much knew all that shyt since I was like 8.

Parents nowadays don't hold their children accountable for their actions and taking education seriously. They need to ensure that the kids see value in their education early in their lives. If the parents don't take interest in their child's future or education, how can you expect them to do it on their own?
 

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At the end of the day, it comes down to parenting not the schools. When I was in elementary school, everyday I would come home my parents go over my homework with me and made sure it was correct and I understood how to do it. Through junior high, they didn't really check it as much, but they held me to very high standards and expectations when it came to my grades. Going through school, I would see students hyped for getting Cs or just passing. I could never bring that shyt home to my parents and there was no excuse for getting below an A in any class. (They're Jamaican, they ain't play that shyt).

Through elementary and junior high my father used to take me and my brothers in our basement every Sunday morning and teach us calculus, so we were years beyond our grade in that subject. I never had to study for any math class... ...ever, even through college because I pretty much knew all that shyt since I was like 8.

Parents nowadays don't hold their children accountable for their actions and taking education seriously. They need to ensure that the kids see value in their education early in their lives. If the parents don't take interest in their child's future or education, how can you expect them to do it on their own?


I partly agree, i think your parents being from Jamaica ( born and raised there i assume ) has a lot to do it.

What level of education did they get?

When people come from countries where sometimes they didnt get to get finish elementary , high school etc BECAUSE THEY HAD TO WORK, when they have children of there own its appreciated and enforced more

Just the thought of me or my sistesr dropping out of high school :upsetfavre:

Matter fact my youngest sister dropped out of college ( 2 years in) 2 years ago and my pops gives her the :birdman: on the daily for that

Parents are a important part yes but if they didn't receive a education of there own , you grow up in a environment where ignorance to a certain extent is praised, and the government gives you crutches along the way what motivation do they have succeed? none.
 

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At the end of the day, it comes down to parenting not the schools. When I was in elementary school, everyday I would come home my parents go over my homework with me and made sure it was correct and I understood how to do it. Through junior high, they didn't really check it as much, but they held me to very high standards and expectations when it came to my grades. Going through school, I would see students hyped for getting Cs or just passing. I could never bring that shyt home to my parents and there was no excuse for getting below an A in any class. (They're Jamaican, they ain't play that shyt).

Through elementary and junior high my father used to take me and my brothers in our basement every Sunday morning and teach us calculus, so we were years beyond our grade in that subject. I never had to study for any math class... ...ever, even through college because I pretty much knew all that shyt since I was like 8.

Parents nowadays don't hold their children accountable for their actions and taking education seriously. They need to ensure that the kids see value in their education early in their lives. If the parents don't take interest in their child's future or education, how can you expect them to do it on their own?

Parenting and environmental conditions. The education system is bad shape, but often schools and teachers get blamed for shyt they simply cannot fix. My high school was in a mostly suburban middle class location, so it had decent quality standards of education. They bused kids from the innercity there and most of them never graduated or gave a fukk about school at all even though they were at a decent one. The education system can't fix teenage mothers, fathers not present, parents on drugs, the drug economy, crime, poverty, joblessness, bad nutrition, generational welfare, lack of infrastructure and resources, etc.
 

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time to move from white crackers and black c00ns

the system as is repulsive and warrants revolting.

and R&Evolution
 

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Parenting and environmental conditions. The education system is bad shape, but often schools and teachers get blamed for shyt they simply cannot fix. My high school was in a mostly suburban middle class location, so it had decent quality standards of education. They bused kids from the innercity there and most of them never graduated or gave a fukk about school at all even though they were at a decent one. The education system can't fix teenage mothers, fathers not present, parents on drugs, the drug economy, crime, poverty, joblessness, bad nutrition, welfare-dependency, lack of infrastructure and resources, etc.

I somewhat agree but I think you're discounting the fact that black culture just discourages people (especially males) from giving a fukk about school.

All of the stuff you listed is a factor, but even nigs in relatively good situations won't perform well in school if they view academics as a "white" thing. I honestly think culture is one of the biggest factors.

I definitely agree that schools/teachers often get blame for things they can't do much about.
 

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I somewhat agree but I think you're discounting the fact that black culture just discourages people (especially males) from giving a fukk about school.

All of the stuff you listed is a factor, but even nigs in relatively good situations won't perform well in school if they view academics as a "white" thing. I honestly think culture is one of the biggest factors.

I definitely agree that schools/teachers often get blame for things they can't do much about.

I'm not discounting that at all. I'm certainly cognizant of the cultural element. I don't think it's an either/or thing. The socioeconomic and sociological conditions led to the cultural depravity, basic cause and effect. We have to look at the whole thing holistically.
 

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I partly agree, i think your parents being from Jamaica ( born and raised there i assume ) has a lot to do it.

What level of education did they get?

When people come from countries where sometimes they didnt get to get finish elementary , high school etc BECAUSE THEY HAD TO WORK, when they have children of there own its appreciated and enforced more

Just the thought of me or my sistesr dropping out of high school :upsetfavre:

Matter fact my youngest sister dropped out of college ( 2 years in) 2 years ago and my pops gives her the :birdman: on the daily for that

Parents are a important part yes but if they didn't receive a education of there own , you grow up in a environment where ignorance to a certain extent is praised, and the government gives you crutches along the way what motivation do they have succeed? none.

They were both born and raised in Jamaica. They got degrees in Jamaica, my father went to Kingston College, not sure where my mom went. Never asked, lol. But they both grew up poor and they both have seven siblings each. Im talking one room shack no electricity, no bathroom, no kitchen, nothing else. So they know where they came from and how important education was in getting them out that situation. My father went to school and took care of the family along with my grandfather since he was the oldest. My father was the one that brought them up out the slums and bought the house that my grandparents still live in to this day.
 

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They were both born and raised in Jamaica. They got degrees in Jamaica, my father went to Kingston College, not sure where my mom went. Never asked, lol. But they both grew up poor and they both have seven siblings each. Im talking one room shack with just one light bulb type shyt, no bathroom, kitchen nothing else. So they know where they came from and how important education was in getting them out that situation. My father went to school and took care of the family along with my grandfather since he was the oldest. My father was the one that brought them up out the slums and bought the house that my grandparents still live in to this day.
Yup. My parents are also immigrants (Bermuda and Guyana) who grew up dirt poor as fukk, got an education, came here and made it to middle class. They instilled the importance of work and education in me at an early age that is invaluable. Hopefully my kids won't be lazy ass bums due to having American parents.
 

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There is no one single cause for all of this....Though I know it'll mostly be blamed on "Black pathologies".

The kids are at fault

The teachers are at fault

The schools are at fault

The local government is at fault

And yes the culture is at fault to a a degree also.

plenty of blame to go around.
 

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there's a major issue, im too lazy to get into it, but just know it has to do with district zoning laws which restrict diversity in schools
Taxes?


At the end of the day, it comes down to parenting not the schools. When I was in elementary school, everyday I would come home my parents go over my homework with me and made sure it was correct and I understood how to do it. Through junior high, they didn't really check it as much, but they held me to very high standards and expectations when it came to my grades. Going through school, I would see students hyped for getting Cs or just passing. I could never bring that shyt home to my parents and there was no excuse for getting below an A in any class. (They're Jamaican, they ain't play that shyt).

Through elementary and junior high my father used to take me and my brothers in our basement every Sunday morning and teach us calculus, so we were years beyond our grade in that subject. I never had to study for any math class... ...ever, even through college because I pretty much knew all that shyt since I was like 8.

Parents nowadays don't hold their children accountable for their actions and taking education seriously. They need to ensure that the kids see value in their education early in their lives. If the parents don't take interest in their child's future or education, how can you expect them to do it on their own?
I feel you breh

Throughout my life there have been many enthusiastic donors whom immensely assisted to my reading and writing abilities. The most beneficial contribution came at the hands of grandmother(parent figure).

She is a former LAUSD teacher, whom achieved a master’s degree in English. Essentially took me under her wing at an early age, and attempted to model me into a sharp apprentice of hers.

While most of my adolescent peers were probably overwhelmed with playing with Gameboys, Barbie’s and other frivolous outdoor activities, I spent the latter part my childhood busy hammering away at academic workbooks. This helped me enormously, especially after I was diagnosed with a mild case of dyslexia(should be apparent in a lot of my post).

My grandmother worked hard at altering my condition, she even went out her way to buy me remedial textbooks. To ease the clout of a rigorous academic climate, we often verbally engaged in a wide variety of controversial topics such as: critical thinking, politics(which is why I contribute to HL) and attending college when the opportunity presented itself.

After a while, I came to the realization that college would indubitably be a mandatory pit stop, prematurely into my adulthood. In the end, spending time with my grandmother set the stage for the vital development of my comprehension,composition, & mathematics skills.

:win:

I know most people aren't that fortunate enough to have solid foundation.



With that said, time to hit the library and get my :whoo::troll: on
 
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Doesn't everybody have to get a regents diploma to graduate in NY? That's how it was when I graduated in 01. Matter fact 2001 was the first year they made that a requirement and half the state didn't graduate that year.
 
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