Netflix might have one: Making a Murderer (Dec 18th)

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any word on his girlfriend that just left him out of the blue?

That was a little strange.

She was down for the cause, then suddenly it was over.

They kept fukking with her over and over again, she was getting stopped and harassed by local police and they were threatening to do all types of shyt because she was caught up on those drunk driving charges.. I think she finally got fed up with the harassment and moved on with her life. :francis:
 

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after watching the full confession on youtube
I personally feel like they are guilty, Brendan didnt just make all that shyt up. I also think the little girl they put on the stand was clearly lying to protect her cousin. But the problem is that I think the police knew he was guilty but couldnt prove it, so they planted evidence. That's some scary shyt because that could happen to anyone whether you're guilty or not and im sure it does all the time.
 
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Finally got around to this, and this documentary has me like: :ohhh::patrice:

My observations:

1. Poor Brendan got thrown into this clusterfukk and I absolutely felt for him. Kid wasn't the smartest and the authorities took full advantage of that and it was very unfortunate.

2. After reading the stuff omitted (ALLEGEDLY Avery constantly calling Auto Trader and acting like he was someone else to send Halbach back to his place, allegedly being in a towel when she arrived one time and creeping her out, the alleged *67 calls), I kind of thought Avery had done it...but episodes 5-8 have me torn on who did it. Like where the hell did that blood come from that it somehow EDTA was not detected, and what person in their right mind would put her in the back of her car then burn her? Just sounds weird as shyt.

3. Almost every person that was called by Kratz and Co. on the stand for Avery's trial literally lied and/or contradicted whatever was said between their statements and testimonies in court, under oath. Colborn, Lenk, the DNA chick with the Nancy Grace cut, Hillegas, Mike Halbach, etc. all made some shyt up somehow someway and nobody took notice, especially with the timeline of events.

4. Is it me, or should Mike Halbach AND Hillegas have been arrested for tampering with evidence by deleting the voicemails and "guessing her password"? Halbach's funny style mannerisms made him even more of a suspect IMO (like when he was talking about grieving Teresa's death when she was just reported missing and not found dead yet), not to mention Hillegas being known for allegedly stalking Teresa and another ex of his.

5. Bobby Dassey and Scott Tadych seemed sus as hell, and it seems like they were covering each other's ass and said anything that would get Steven in the slammer because of his past and allegedly molesting Brendan.

6. That damn blood vial. THE. BLOOD. VIAL. The seal to keep the blood tube safe was broken and that syringe hole on the top of the vial should have opened a whole new can of worms on the prosecution and the authorities...but the judge didn't give a shyt and unfortunately didn't do anything.

I'm torn on who killed Teresa. Can't decide between Teresa's brother, her ex, Scott, or Bobby...I think it's the brother or ex more than anyone else, cause remember, the police didn't look for one important thing when it comes to murders...loved ones.

Netflix done did it again, awesome doc :salute:
Not that it is all that relevant, but I don't believe Steven molested Brendan simply because the confession came during the sketchy phone call with his mom that had him reveal a lot of falsehoods
 

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Would you guys say this is better than serial? I never listened to serial but after watching this doc I definitely have plans to
 

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That shyt ain't right and there's no way that confession should have held up in court.
Facts. There have been other cases where testimonies have been thrown out for less. Had this kid been testifying against a cop, for example, his credibility as a witness would most certainly be called into question. :aicmon:
 

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i think avery killed the girl

the car, the bon fire

i think the cops knew he did it as well but didnt think they had enough evidence and planted the key

what really bothers me is that her blood was in the back of the rav4 so she was put in her own rav4 but why would you put her body in the vehicle if your going to burn her 20 feet from your place? why were her bones in the barrel, i dont think the pit was the original burn scene

the cop who was on the stand testifying about the license plate, i have the feeling he was looking at the vehicle before it was discovered

the mentally slow kid, i am absolutely convinced he had nothing to do with it, the cops fuked him over, the original lawyer fuked him over, his mom fuked him over by not being there why they interrogated him

i feel sorry for him

The more I think about it this is probably the case. Its a good chance he did do it but the cops obv felt there had to be no doubt ao they planted the blood and the key. As for Brandon, dude is doing life at 16 because of a confession and zero other evidence when its clear hes mildly retarted :mindblown:. His mom fukked him over big time too letting that scumbag lawyer around for so long. I dunno how these devils sleep at night knowing this dude out there doing life for that shyt. But then again these are cacs in the justice system we talking about :scust:
 

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5:15- one of the jurors was the father of a manitowoc county sheriiff deputy and another juror was the wife of a county clerk employee


this cop got CAUGHT

That scene where Colburn got caught up was the :banderas:moment, you can tell by his whole demeanor and how he started talking soft as shyt that you knew he was caught out there.
 

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frame dean and jerry in your house brehs :pachaha:

double entendre, don't eem ask me how:wow:



Those dudes were some real ones tho especially Strang. Its funny in the media they always make lawyers out to be scum and corrupt but take a real case and the cops, prosecutor, media and judge are all crooked and the Lawyer is the only one with any dignity. shyt like that makes you think more about the system as a whole and how fukked up it is :whoo:
 

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The more I think about it this is probably the case. Its a good chance he did do it but the cops obv felt there had to be no doubt ao they planted the blood and the key. As for Brandon, dude is doing life at 16 because of a confession and zero other evidence when its clear hes mildly retarted :mindblown:. His mom fukked him over big time too letting that scumbag lawyer around for so long. I dunno how these devils sleep at night knowing this dude out there doing life for that shyt. But then again these are cacs in the justice system we talking about :scust:

His mom is almost as mentally challenged as he is. My jaw almost hit the floor when it showed she didn't even know what "inconsistent" means.
 
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after watching the full confession on youtube
I personally feel like they are guilty, Brendan didnt just make all that shyt up. I also think the little girl they put on the stand was clearly lying to protect her cousin. But the problem is that I think the police knew he was guilty but couldnt prove it, so they planted evidence. That's some scary shyt because that could happen to anyone whether you're guilty or not and im sure it does all the time.

He didn't make all that shyt up, the cops that were spoon feeding the story to him did...Every relevant detail in that "confession" was told to him...

Name me one thing Brendan "said" in that "confession" that the evidence validates?

The timeline of the events he's desribing doesn't make any fukking sense especially when you take into account the testimony of the bus driver that dropped him off...Nor does the evidence in any way shape or form support a brutal rape and massacre anywhere near Steve Avery's trailer...There was no physical evidence found anywhere on Steves property to support that story...

What I think happened is the car and body were found on or near the Avery estate...The pigs knew the last place she been was at Steves and they saw an opportunity to make that lawsuit disappear...

The sad thing is who committed this crime we will never know because an investigation was never conducted...They spent all their time trying to get Steve...That dude Tadych seemed really suspect to me though and his alibi doesn't add up...

What I think happened

Oct 31st - Teresa goes missing...

Nov 3rd - The vehicle was found by pig Colborn...We know this because the idiot called in the plates and vehicle model...:russ:

Nov 5th -Search party finds vehicle...The lady that found the vehicle at the very least alluded to being told where to start looking...You're an idiot if you believe her story of divine intervention and we already know at least one Manitowoc officer (Colborn) knew where the vehicle was...

-Warrants obtained and Lenk goes to "work" on the property...
 
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Binge watched the first 5 episodes of this last night. This documentary is very well done, gripping, riveting and infuriating. As of right now, I am not sure Steve did it, and def think Brendan is innocent but we will see how the rest plays out.

Everything that has happened to Brendan thus far seems like it is illegal and would not hold up in a court of law, but we all know that the law works for itself and not the people, so I cannot say I am surprised by what I have seen.

Another stellar show by Netflix.
 
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