NBA Contemplating Eliminating The Draft Lottery: Check Out The Possible Replacement

[FTBS]

Like I said, this will bring back the Magic Johnson, James Worthy going to the Lakers, Bird going to Celtics years all over again. The system as it is, is the best system. Most teams aren't even tanking. Look at the East. Brooklyn and NY don't have picks and terrible management. Milwaukee was trying to win and build a playoff team like Atlanta but failed. Philly and Orlando are tanking. Boston is trying to win. Toronto wants to tank unsuccessfully.

Magic and Worthy were the result of trades. Stuff like that can still happen today. The C's sucked the two years before they got Bird.

Tanking or not, they suck you shouldn't always be rewarded purely because you suck. Not saying that the bad teams should never have a shot at top players, just saying they shouldn't monopolize that shyt. Why shouldn't a scrappy team that overachieves and just barely misses the playoffs or even makes the playoffs get a shot at young stud that can make them legit? Why shouldn't a contender get a shot at a young stud that can put them over the top every so often? If you take away the reward for sucking, best believe every team would be trying and bad GMs wouldn't last, and in turn the overall product would be better.

 

[#1 pick]

Magic and Worthy were the result of trades. Stuff like that can still happen today. The C's sucked the two years before they got Bird.

Tanking or not, they suck you shouldn't always be rewarded purely because you suck. Not saying that the bad teams should never have a shot at top players, just saying they shouldn't monopolize that shyt. Why shouldn't a scrappy team that overachieves and just barely misses the playoffs or even makes the playoffs get a shot at young stud that can make them legit? Why shouldn't a contender get a shot at a young stud that can put them over the top every so often? If you tak away the reward for sucking, best believe every team would be trying and bad GMs wouldn't last, and in turn the overall product would be better.

The Hawks been doing it for years. If you want to be just good enough, it's on you. Indiana did it and ended up with Hibbert and PG. Every team can do their own thing. It's up to management and ownership.

 

[FTBS]

The Hawks been doing it for years. If you want to be just good enough, it's on you. Indiana did it and ended up with Hibbert and PG. Every team can do their own thing. It's up to management and ownership.

That's my point. The only way to avoid just being good enough currently is to suck and get a high pick. It's better to completely suck than to be average or even good. Why not reward teams for trying instead of just rewarding bottom feeders all the time?

 

[#1 pick]

That's my point. The only way to avoid just being good enough currently is to suck and get a high pick. It's better to completely suck than to be average or even good. Why not reward teams for trying instead of just rewarding bottom feeders all the time?

No, it's not. Indiana did it another way. They drafted guys like PG, Granger, Hibbert, and Stevenson and only PG was a lotto pick. Great management is the key. There is a reason way the Knicks and Nets have the highest salaries and tied for 6th in the lotto.

 

[#1 pick]

I don't mind the system we have today. It's not perfect but nothing is in the NBA since all drafts aren't created equal.

 

[FTBS]

No, it's not. Indiana did it another way. They drafted guys like PG, Granger, Hibbert, and Stevenson and only PG was a lotto pick. Great management is the key. There is a reason way the Knicks and Nets have the highest salaries and tied for 6th in the lotto.

They lucked into PG at the 10 spot though. If people knew what he would become prior to the draft they would have never had a shot at him. PGs superstar trajectory is what has taken them to that next level. Otherwise they would be just another 45-50 team that makes the 2nd round every year but isn't going anywhere and has no real way of improving. I am not denying the importance of quality management as a matter of fact I am extolling it's virtues. Why shouldn't great management get more chances at great talent and vice versa? That's my whole point.

 

[Hersh]

we just need to adjust it.. like penalize teams for continually sucking--but still try to help suck teams.. maybe something like a team can only pick in the first 5 picks every five years--

 

[Reid2Achieve]

Honestly, the current lottery works fine. Just look at the draft history of most annual lottery teams. The repeated bad decisions from front offices shoot themselves in the foot.

NBA will never be like NFL and MLB where teams can regularly go from worst to first. Teams have to be patient and make better decisions.

 

[FTBS]

Honestly, the current lottery works fine. Just look at the draft history of most annual lottery teams. The repeated bad decisions from front offices shoot themselves in the foot.

NBA will never be like NFL and MLB where teams can regularly go from worst to first. Teams have to be patient and make better decisions.

And your reward for that is being stuck on the treadmill unless you already have a superstar in tow or you are a destination city. You are better of sucking under the current system.

 

[#1 pick]

They lucked into PG at the 10 spot though. If people knew what he would become prior to the draft they would have never had a shot at him. PGs superstar trajectory is what has taken them to that next level. Otherwise they would be just another 45-50 team that makes the 2nd round every year but isn't going anywhere and has no real way of improving. I am not denying the importance of quality management as a matter of fact I am extolling it's virtues. Why shouldn't great management get more chances at great talent and vice versa? That's my whole point.

They didn't luck into PG. Many felt he was overslotted like his development as well as Lance's is what changed Indy forecast. Many seen them as being the next Atlanta. So much for that, they are now a legit contender and have been so for two years.

Great Management
Great Coaching
Is the key to success.

When teams figure that out, they will improve.
That's why Phoenix, Boston, Atlanta, and Denver are about it eat. Toronto just needs the coaching.

Teams like the Lakers, Knicks, Nets, Bucks, Kings, Pelicans, Wizards, and Sixers never seem to get it. Bobcats are finally on the right track.

 

[prophecypro]

 

[ExodusNirvana]

Carry the one...wait...wait hold on...

 

[FTBS]

They didn't luck into PG. Many felt he was overslotted like his development as well as Lance's is what changed Indy forecast. Many seen them as being the next Atlanta. So much for that, they are now a legit contender and have been so for two years.

Great Management
Great Coaching
Is the key to success.

When teams figure that out, they will improve.
That's why Phoenix, Boston, Atlanta, and Denver are about it eat. Toronto just needs the coaching.

Teams like the Lakers, Knicks, Nets, Bucks, Kings, Pelicans, Bulls, and Sixers never seem to get it. Bobcats are finally on the right track.

I clearly stated that PGs development was key to Indy taking that next step. They are lucky that none of the 9 teams picking before them recognized his potential. If he hadn't developed like he has then they would be the next Atlanta. Great management alone can ony get you so far. You gotta have players if you want to be a contender. The way things are currently set up you will get punished for having great management unless you already have a great player in tow.

 

[Reid2Achieve]

And your reward for that is being stuck on the treadmill unless you already have a superstar in tow or you are a destination city. You are better of sucking under the current system.

Nah, there are stars and really really good players that fall to middle/late first round and even second round. If you make good picks and stockpile on talent you end up with more possibilities (trades, free agency, etc).

The most important things for trash or "treadmill" teams is to have a good scouting team and to get as many picks as possible. Would you rather be the Cavs, Raptors (in recent years), and Kings? Or would you rather be the Suns, Nuggets, and Celtics? Getting a top 3 pick doesn't always guarantee a superstar anyway.

 

[FTBS]

Nah, there are stars and really really good players that fall to middle/late first round and even second round. If you make good picks and stockpile on talent you end up with more possibilities (trades, free agency, etc).

The most important things for trash or "treadmill" teams is to have a good scouting team and to get as many picks as possible. Would you rather be the Cavs, Raptors (in recent years), and Kings? Or would you rather be the Suns, Nuggets, and Celtics? Getting a top 3 pick doesn't always guarantee a superstar anyway.

Big difference between stars/really good players and superstar franchise changers. Good picks and a stockpile of talent will get you 50 wins and the playoffs every year and never sniffing a championship. You gotta have that Duncan, Lebron, Kobe, Shaq, Jordan, Hakeem etc. to get over the top and you have to either have a top 3 pick or be a destination city to get players of this caliber. This ain't the NFL were depth, system, coaching>>>>> individual greatness. You gotta have that star, along with those other things, if you wanna win it all. Top 3 pick doesn't guarantee a superstar but being good guarantees you won't get a shot at one (outside of trades for picks and being a destination city).