Albums Nas - The Lost Tapes 2 (Discussion Thread)

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SOHH ICEY MONOPOLY
So Diddy’s son, Def Jam, Ghostface, Nav, actresses, actors, Casey Veggies, Benny Boom, Havoc, Busta Rhymes, Lil Cease, Capone and Noreaga, AZ, Anthony Hamilton, Swizz, Laura Styles, Williethekid, Sza, Sky from Black Ink, Fab , and the list goes on and on are all just some Nas stans huh?

They might be tho. Issa goat meng :wow:
 

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Whatever happened to Sinatra in the Sands?

The name alone sounds epic

Nobody knows. The last Nas spoke on it, he said it wasn't for Lost Tapes. J-Roc, who co-produced the song with Tim said it sounded like Vegas meets Mafia if that makes any sense. Timbaland last spoke on it last year and said he and Justin were listening to it.

I guess he's saving it for whatever album he drops next.
 
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Snippet sounds very 2012 life is good era to me so im guessing the bulk of this will be from around then

Hope liner notes will help identify when about tracks were worked on for the curious heads


This is correct for that song. It was on the final tracklisting to be included but didn’t make it due to sample clearances

The bulk of the album LOOKS to be evenly spread from HHID/Untitled/ Life Is Good era.

HHID SESSIONS

Vernon Family (Pharrell) Nas spoke on working with Pharrell in early in the HHID conception process

You Mean The World To Me (Kanye West) this is one of only two tracks from LT2 that has leaked previously. This leaked a little bit after HHID dropped.

Jarreau Of Rap (Eddie Cole) this is a GUESS based upon the fact that Nas was as working with an eclectic group of producers and trying out new concepts during the HHID recording sessions (Blunt Ashes prod by Chris Webber.) (Who Killed It prod by Will I Am.) so this type of track, seems conceptually like it would fit in.

UNTITLED (******) SESSIONS

Who Are You (Ernie Hudson) This is the second track from LT2 that leaked and it was directly after Untitled released as part of that El Dorado Mixtape. Ernie Hudson of course produced Project Roach off of Untitled as well.

War Against Love (Dj Dahi and DJ Khalil) Khalil was gaining ALOT of buzz during this time period and produced the infamous Esco Lets Go and the equally infamous and unreleased Colours, all from the Untitled sessions.

Queens Wolf (DJ Toomp) Toomp famously produced ****** (Slave and The Master) off of Untitled, and in an interview during that time stated that he and Nas recorded 4 complete songs together. This is one of those tracks.

LIFE IS GOOD SESSIONS

Lost Freestyle (Statik Selecktah) already confirmed to be from the LIG sessions by Statik himself on twitter.

Beautiful Life (No ID) this song was talked about (as “Life Is Good” title track) by both Nas and No ID as a song that was VERY close to making the final tracklisting

Royalty (Hit Boy) Hit Boy famously worked with Nas and Frank Ocean on an unreleased song titled “No Such Thing As White Jesus” from the LIG sessions. Hit Boy’s hard drive corrupted and the song was lost. Later on Hit Boy claimed to have recovered the song and released a 10 second snippet on Instagram. Royalty must be another song from those sessions that Hit Boy was able to recover

It Never Ends (Alchemist) around the time of the LIG sessions Alchemist tweeted that Nas had put him on a “special assignment” and that he was excited. Of course no music came of it from Life Is Good. But Alchemist is a big Nas fan and his enthusiasm and earnestness to work with Nas again has never faded. One might say his quest to link up with Nas Never Ends....

No Bad Energy ( Swizz Beats) Swizz Beats famously (or infamously depending on how you feel about the song) had a joint called Summer On Smash included on Life Is Good. The controvery from that arises from the fact that there was a BETTER more HARDCORE song recorded by the duo, once known as “Bath Salts” but ultimately named “Street shyt”. This song was said to be an absolute banger! Nas and Swizz even PERFORMED the song for industry friends and big wigs at a pre-release Life Is Good listening session. In February of 2017, Swizz Beats and Just Blaze staged a now legendary beat battle in which Swizz unleashed “Street shyt” with not just Nas verses, but JAY-Z, JADAKISS AND DM MUTHAfukkING X HIMSELF! The song was rumored to be included on Swizz Beats 2018 album Poison, but has to this day never officially been heard. Could No Bad Energy be the elusive “Street shyt”, with only Nas verses as originally planned? Who knows? But it could be...


LOST TAPES 2 ORIGINAL TRACK SESSIONS

The Art Of It & Queens Bridge Politics (Pete Rock) in 2011, Nas officially began work on Lost Tapes 2. This included reuniting with the legendary producer extraordinaire Pete Rock, who 16 years earlier crafted one of Nas’s most classic and celebrated songs, The World Is Yours. Rumors abound as to why, but shortly after the release of Illmatic, the relationship between Rock and Nas soured. Nas didn’t use any of the beats that Rock sent for inclusion on IWW and Pete was apparently bitter about that. Pete lamented in a 2009 interview with allhiphop that Nas hadn’t spoken to him in over 12 years. Then, quite suddenly, Pete Rock posted on his Twitter account in 2011 that he was working with Nas, and that Nas sounded like “41st and Vernon” era Nas. The tracks produced by Pete Rock were scheduled to be included in Lost Tapes 2 before Nas and Def Jam had a falling out over budgeting and whether or not LT2 would count against the number of albums that Nas contractually owed Def Jam (Distant Relatives was released by Universal Republic and did not count against his deal) the album was shelved and so too were the Pete Rock produced tracks. Until now...


PRE-NASIR SESSIONS

Rumors began circulating soon after the release of Life Is Good about the status of Nas’s next album. Nas started working with a varied and eclectic group of producers around mid 2013. Including Alex Da Kidd, Bangladesh, and Justice League. But the hype REALLY began when it was announced that Nas was working with Timbaland! A song titles Sinatra In The Sand featuring Jay-Z and Justin Timberlake was teased heavily, but ultimately, neither that track or any of the solo work from the Nas/Timbo sessions has ever seen the life of day. However, ANOTHER super producer announced plans to work with Nas. One that had already crafted a classic collab with Gods Son...


Tanashia & Highly Favored (RZA) RZA confirmed in an interview with HipHopDX in January of 2012 that Nas came to his house and he gave him
About 50 beats. Nas confirmed in an interview with iheart radio in July of 2018 that he had “finished” songs with both RZA and Swizz Beats for the album that was supposed to drop before Nasir.

Adult Film (Swizz Beatz) Swizz has confirmed that he has an album’s worth of material with Nas. In an interview with Pitchfork in July of 2018 Swizz claimed that he and Nas produced an entire album in 2016 during a one week recording bonanza in LA.
 

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I am super excited for this as a Nas (my personal goat) fan I know he gonna black out on it. But just looking at all the producers on here. These are all dudes who I love their beats.

The vault he got in the stash is legendary if he can just pull these over a decade worth of work.

I'm going to see him on the 20th at the Myrtle Beach House of blues show. So it's a cherry on top of it all. I hope perform some of these joints there.

That Kanye mean the world to me I love that song. I wanted the scientist and colors on there but I can't complain. I'm just happy to get a project. Also would like to hear the album he was working on with Hip Hop executive producing it cause his ear is crazy too.

I hate to admit it but I wanna see what other diss dj Vlad gonna come up with about Nas beat selection even though he been proven wrong. All these dudes on this one are ill and stay dropping fire beats. Vlad probably will say someone else probably chose them or forced Nas to release them lol
 

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It's the drums. I keep saying it, Nas raps to the drums. Give him slow or weak drums like on Nasir and you get slower flows that may be off beat depending on the production. Hard fast drums and you get classic Nas.

That snippet has hard drums that are up tempo, almost a breakbeat. Of course Nas was gonna float on that. It's god's plan.
Excellent analysis

Them sleepy ass flows on slow drums don’t work for Nas
 

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Please don't compare Jay-Z to Nas....lol one is Pac level, the other jumped in Biggie's throne..

Don't do this. I literally beg of you
The truth is Jay has since passed big. It's not really a debatable topic. Jay has proven over time to also be a great one that belongs in the conversation
 

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More than anything, 9th was just comin off thirsty...like you really think Nas is gonna want a beat you already uploaded on a YouTube video where you begging him to put it on LIG? He shot himself in the foot...shame too cuz it was a hot ass beat

Similar shyt with the Marley Marl/IWW situation
 
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