Nas- Magic 3 Discussion Thread

NoHalfWay

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I couldn’t disagree more, I love Nas on Hitboy production. For like every album from Nastradamus to LIG I was screaming at my own self that Nas needed more “poppin” production, like jammin music. I don’t think his production was trash and all that BS, I just think for the level of rapper he is his production needs to match that…Hitboy was 110% what I was asking for, he is exactly the type producer I wanted for Nas.

I only consider overwhelmingly contrasting opinions if the person isn’t on some hater shyt and is being genuine and can explain their stance…that’s why I thought about it for a second. Then they were saying that’s why it doesn’t chart well and all the songs flop, etc… it’s because Nas doesn’t fit the production. I personally think the sales are what they are because Nas old as shyt and so is his fan base lol, that’s why I don’t trip on it…I don’t think Nas does either

My only semi gripe is that Nas pen has kind of taken a hit…no pun. I don’t know if that’s because he’s just trying to coast and not overwrite to the production (which is smart) or if he’s just not the same writer anymore, 🤷🏽‍♂️. Pen still brollic tho
I used to think his pen was on the decline but nah, it’s just that on his older albums he used to body every song intentionally… he doesn’t do that anymore aside from KD3.

I kinda miss that from him, always being technically advanced on just about every song. He hasn’t lost it at all tho. I Love This Feeling, Jodeci Member, Based On A True Story, Speechless Pt. 2 still displays his elite skills on a technical perspective.

I think he intentionally dials it back. He’s been cited many times as being one to overthink his songs
 

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I'm not a Wayne fan like that, but he straight killed this shyt. Fit in perfectly with the theme while doing his style his way. That's Hip Hop.

I'm stuck on Speechless 2 and I Love This Feeling and Jodeci Member. Some bars hit me like a freight train in how they spoke to me. That's Hip Hop.

Nas is a Hip Hop head like we all are here. That's why some don't get it. Not everyone that listens to Hip Hop is a head.

Salute to those who immediately recognized the opening dialogue on Illmatic. Back then if you weren't a head you never heard of Wild Style.

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Why do ya'll keep acting like people are criticizing these albums because they're "stuck in the 90s" like Hit-Boy is making contemporary modern beats that dusty mfs can't get with. All he is doing is making some offbrand Roc-a-Fella sounding shyt with some tinny fisherprice boom bap thrown in for good measure. There's nothing forward thinking or cutting edge about his production. It's as out of sync with modern hip hop as whatever washed sounding shyt Premo, Pete etc are putting out.

not one beat on any nas and hit album sounds like anything from a jay, beans, free, dynasty

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Incels they don’t like when Nas talks about women

shyt, I don’t even hear this song as a woman type of track…. This shyt is literally musical geinius from all angles…. Engineering, production, and mc’ing. It was executed well. Just like no tears. I can understand why people may not like it but I feel hitboy and the engineer brought these tracks very well to actually fit the musical theatrics of it.. if that makes sense..
 

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I used to think his pen was on the decline but nah, it’s just that on his older albums he used to body every song intentionally… he doesn’t do that anymore aside from KD3.

I kinda miss that from him, always being technically advanced on just about every song. He hasn’t lost it at all tho. I Love This Feeling, Jodeci Member, Based On A True Story, Speechless Pt. 2 still displays his elite skills on a technical perspective.

I think he intentionally dials it back. He’s been cited many times as being one to overthink his songs

i wouldnt be surprised if it was intentional. Just having fun freestyling most of it.. he hinted at “I can be nasty when I want to” and with more music to come, maybe he will show dont sleep in his technical pen game. Dude is 50 and still, dialing it back, better than 95% of these rappers out.. after listening to locomotive, I won’t ever question if he got naked pictures of god….
 

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PYG isn’t a modern sounding song tho.
The content of that record and the play with words, flow, etc is definitely modern. The beat was very boom bap though. Nas made it more modern sounding.
 

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Is it really a modern song though? I don't think that had anything to do with it. Spicy was a more modern sounding song and we all loved that one.
The cadence, content, flow etc… made it sound like a modern boom bap record. Nas made it into a modern sounding record.
 
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