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I remember seeing this video ONCE i think on MTV and somehow I KNEW Nas was gonna be on it. This is my first time seeing this in like 22 years lmao.



Why are you surprised Jay wasn’t on it? Jay was at the HEIGHT of his “Me me me drink in the wonder of ME” bag during this time. That nikka wasn’t gonna rap about anything that didn’t pertain to HIM
Them nikkas was battling for King Of NY during the time and such a big tragedy happened on HIS release date of the Blueprint. I assumed he would’ve participated based on that alone. During this time I used it as ammo against him too cause it was the height of the battle. I was like “Jay don’t even care enough to be on shyt like this that’s why Nas the GOAT…”.. lol
 

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jay didn't participate because 9/11 happened after jay premiered Takeover that same year on summer jam...just put 2 and 2 together....you can't get both of them together during this time at all



jay did some freestyle about giving back to 9/11 victims separately, but the blueprint dropped the same day as 9/11, so he namedropped his album with 9/11 and said some of his album proceeds went to charity

having one side of the answers from nas point of view is not enough to get the full picture...just see the full scope of things of how things were


also there's old videos of nas talking about 9/11 and there is supposedly an unreleased track of nas rapping about 9/11 just to make sense of it all

Jay Blueprint album dropped on 9/11. Ain’t no excuse damn near every poppin NYC artist spoke on it. shyt Dipset had a whole movement based on it. Nas even rapped about it on Stillmatic as well. Closest was Jay being on Welcome to NYC and Cam and Juelz did all the heavy lifting as far as 9/11 references.
 
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Where does this year stand amongst the best years in Nas career?

Lets look at some of Nas big years and compare and contrast

94- Illmatic releases. Debuts at number 12 on Billboard. Receives 5 Mics in the Source. Goes on to receive 2 nominations at the 95 Source Awards

96- It Was Written releases. Debuts at number 1 and spends 4 consecutive weeks at the top slot. Album is certified double platinum and goes on to receive a Grammy nomination at the 97 Grammy awards

99- I am releases. Debuts at number 1 with 470K first week. Album is certified double platinum. Nastradamus releases in November of this year. Debuts at number 7 with 232K first week. Album is certified platinum. I am receives a Grammy nomination for Best Rap Album at the 2000 Grammys.

01- Stillmatic releases. Debuts at number 8 with 342K first week. Album is certified double platinum. Becomes the first solo rapper to receive two 5 Mics certifications from The Source. Defeats Jay-Z in highly controversial rap battle.

02- Releases Lost Tapes and Gods Son. Lost Tapes debuts at number 10 on billboard with 70K. Gods Son debuts at number 18 after an early Friday release (albums at the time were released on Tuesdays) selling 156K first week.

06- Officially ends beef with Jay-Z. Signs with Def Jam. Releases Hip Hop Is Dead which debuts at number 1 with 358K first week and is certified platinum. Album is nominated for Best Rap Album at the 08 Grammys.

2012- Releases Life Is Good. Debuts at number 1 with 149K first week. Album is certified Gold. CNN names Nas the greatest lyricist in Hip Hip history. The Source names Nas the second greatest lyricist of all time only behind Rakim. Album is nominated for 4 Grammys in 2014


2020- Releases Kings Disease. Debuts at number 5 with 45K sold first week. Album is nominated for and wins Best Rap Album at the 2021 Grammy awards. Becomes oldest rapper to win Best Rap Album

2022- Goes on international sold out tour with Wu-Tang. Releases Kings Disease 3 which goes on to become the highest acclaimed rap album of the year and ties Nas with Jay-Z as the rappers with the most top ten debuts in Billboard history.


2023- Becomes oldest rapper to appear on the cover of Billboard. Appears on the cover of GQ. Performs sold out show at MSG. Inducted into Billboard’s Hip Hop Hall Fame. Nominated for an Emmy award for directing the documentary Supreme Team. Releases 17th studio album Magic 2 to heavy acclaim. Set to perform at Yankee Stadium in a lineup of Hip Hop legends for Hip Hop’s 50th anniversary celebration.
 

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Where does this year stand amongst the best years in Nas career?

Lets look at some of Nas big years and compare and contrast

94- Illmatic releases. Debuts at number 12 on Billboard. Receives 5 Mics in the Source. Goes on to receive 2 nominations at the 95 Source Awards

96- It Was Written releases. Debuts at number 1 and spends 4 consecutive weeks at the top slot. Album is certified double platinum and goes on to receive a Grammy nomination at the 97 Grammy awards

99- I am releases. Debuts at number 1 with 470K first week. Album is certified double platinum. Nastradamus releases in November of this year. Debuts at number 7 with 232K first week. Album is certified platinum. I am receives a Grammy nomination for Best Rap Album at the 2000 Grammys.

01- Stillmatic releases. Debuts at number 8 with 342K first week. Album is certified double platinum. Becomes the first solo rapper to receive two 5 Mics certifications from The Source. Defeats Jay-Z in highly controversial rap battle.

02- Releases Lost Tapes and Gods Son. Lost Tapes debuts at number 10 on billboard with 70K. Gods Son debuts at number 18 after an early Friday release (albums at the time were released on Tuesdays) selling 156K first week.

06- Officially ends beef with Jay-Z. Signs with Def Jam. Releases Hip Hop Is Dead which debuts at number 1 with 358K first week and is certified platinum. Album is nominated for Best Rap Album at the 08 Grammys.

2012- Releases Life Is Good. Debuts at number 1 with 149K first week. Album is certified Gold. CNN names Nas the greatest lyricist in Hip Hip history. The Source names Nas the second greatest lyricist of all time only behind Rakim. Album is nominated for 4 Grammys in 2014


2020- Releases Kings Disease. Debuts at number 5 with 45K sold first week. Album is nominated for and wins Best Rap Album at the 2021 Grammy awards. Becomes oldest rapper to win Best Rap Album

2022- Goes on international sold out tour with Wu-Tang. Releases Kings Disease 3 which goes on to become the highest acclaimed rap album of the year and ties Nas with Jay-Z as the rappers with the most top ten debuts in Billboard history.


2023- Becomes oldest rapper to appear on the cover of Billboard. Appears on the cover of GQ. Performs sold out show at MSG. Inducted into Billboard’s Hip Hop Hall Fame. Nominated for an Emmy award for directing the documentary Supreme Team. Releases 17th studio album Magic 2 to heavy acclaim. Set to perform at Yankee Stadium in a lineup of Hip Hop legends for Hip Hop’s 50th anniversary celebration.
This a good question. I’m putting this year in the top 3. I’m riding the movement. You won’t hear a complaint out of me about the music etc… Nas is happy. The music sounds great. He has experimented with every sound from modern to old. Still a top notch lyricist and truly the only MC from his era still at this level.
 
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This a good question. I’m putting this year in the top 3. I’m riding the movement. You won’t hear a complaint out of me about the music etc… Nas is happy. The music sounds great. He has experimented with every sound from modern to old. Still a top notch lyricist and truly the only MC from his era still at this level.

If he puts out another album this year and gets the undisputed record for rappers with top 10 debuts i’m putting this year number 2 only under 96.

That would be an INCREDIBLE feat at 50 years old.
 

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If he puts out another album this year and gets the undisputed record for rappers with top 10 debuts i’m putting this year number 2 only under 96.

That would be an INCREDIBLE feat at 50 years old.
I think if he uses the KD2 blueprint with marketing with adding in some other marketing they did with other projects they can get him there. It will require some big features on the project though.
 

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This a good question. I’m putting this year in the top 3. I’m riding the movement. You won’t hear a complaint out of me about the music etc… Nas is happy. The music sounds great. He has experimented with every sound from modern to old. Still a top notch lyricist and truly the only MC from his era still at this level.

Jigga is still at this level lyrically.
 
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