Nas - King's Disease III (Discussion Thread)

[Soymuscle Mike]

I've been defending and supporting Nas' music online since I was a kid.

20 years ago I was on SOHH defending God's Sons production when half the site thought the beats were wack. Same with Untitled and other releases.

I went to bat for Nas songs that were clowned and hated like Zone Out and Who Killed It? I've always pushed back on the Nas has weak production narrative. It was always bs.

I can vouch for this, wasn't a lot of us then (you, myself, Jayshiggs etc) but I remember you from back in the day.

People forget that except for Stillmatic and Lost Tapes, none of Nas releases were universally praised the way these Hitboy albums now seem to be. You had to be there to see that the boards were divided on Nas for years. It's 180'd now on the Coli.

I'm loving the Hitboy run myself, but really don't see why us Nas fans would object to criticism at this point - there's never been a consistent 4 year run of Nas praise and acclaim like we're seeing now, ever. Being a Nas fan has meant fighting off criticism since '95, a brief gap of universal praise when he released Stillmatic and Lost Tapes (and later Life is Good) but always division after. The last few years are unprecedented for Nas fandom.

 

[mson]

Awful ass take.. man, yall are truly the worse fans. I see why other people say it.

Ridiculous

Fans don't have to like everything.

 

[Tetris v2.0]

I can vouch for this, wasn't a lot of us then (you, myself, Jayshiggs etc) but I remember you from back in the day.

People forget that except for Stillmatic and Lost Tapes, none of Nas releases were universally praised the way these Hitboy albums now seem to be. You had to be there to see that the boards were divided on Nas for years. It's 180'd now on the Coli.

I'm loving the Hitboy run myself, but really don't see why us Nas fans would object to criticism at this point - there's never been a consistent 4 year run of Nas praise and acclaim like we're seeing now, ever. Being a Nas fan has meant fighting off criticism since '95, a brief gap of universal praise when he released Stillmatic and Lost Tapes (and later Life is Good) but always division after. The last few years are unprecedented for Nas fandom.

Facts. Don't let my critique fool anyone, Nas is GOAT and I'm loving this run

 

[Amestafuu (Emeritus)]

Lol.. he just put out a song with Preme that nobody cared about. Wish yall would give this up

thank you man

 

[L. Deezy]

Fans don't have to like everything.

I didnt say that comment about not liking it.. I said it because he a Preme and Pete the best option for Nas fan. They been that way since IWW. They disgust me

 

[DeuceZ]

Thread went to shyt ima just wait for the music to come. All this Nas should do this and do that for ppl who just gonna listen to it on YouTube or (gasp) still asks for a link is hilarious

 

[kes929]

While I don't necessarily love Hitboy's beats I always felt he's a more commercial producer and he doesnt' really use samples like that like the Primo's and Alchemist's and RZA's of the world. He rocks out a lot with those West coast artists and I always used to associate Hit with that trap sound or that gangsta sound.

His drums ain't that hard and he never uses scratches on his hooks and such.
His beats don't sound "east coast" to me......

Could Hit produce a song like "Nas is Like" ? Probably not.
But could Primo produce a song like "Sicko Mode" or Trophies? No.

They both got different bags.....

Hit Boy is a very diverse producer that can give you any style you want. That’s the beauty of the Nas and hit boy combo. Hit can give 27 summers, or he can give you a store run. Or if you want something a little grimier, he can give you a speechless.

 

[IllmaticDelta]

Some people have too much of an obsession with Nas working with these producers who have seen their best days more than 20 years ago, and then when Nas actually works with one of these guys, cats complain that they don't like the record and that it sounds dated

 

[Asicz]

People forget that except for Stillmatic and Lost Tapes, none of Nas releases were universally praised the way these Hitboy albums now seem to be. You had to be there to see that the boards were divided on Nas for years. It's 180'd now on the Coli.

I'm loving the Hitboy run myself, but really don't see why us Nas fans would object to criticism at this point - there's never been a consistent 4 year run of Nas praise and acclaim like we're seeing now, ever. Being a Nas fan has meant fighting off criticism since '95, a brief gap of universal praise when he released Stillmatic and Lost Tapes (and later Life is Good) but always division after. The last few years are unprecedented for Nas fandom.

Yo I literally saw a medical doctor along with others that I follow on Twitter trash the music reviewer who gave KD 2 a bad/mid review.

 

[Asicz]

Does Producer 9th Wonder Have Beef With Nas?

The Recording Academy rolled out the 2021 Grammy Award nominees on Tuesday (November 24) and sparked a contentious debate on social media.

hiphopdx.com

9th Wonder-
Nas is an anomaly, man,” he said. “He wants to get so far away from Illmatic, and everybody wants him to go back. I think he thinks we’re talking about his subject matter. We’re mostly talking about the sound. Nas is one of the few artists from our generation that’s keeping our generation alive from a mainstream perspective. For a mainstream standpoint it’s Nas and JAY-Z, there’s not too many others like them left.”

 

[Asicz]

Some people have too much of an obsession with Nas working with these producers who have seen their best days more than 20 years ago, and then when Nas actually works with one of these guys, cats complain that they don't like the record and that it sounds dated

Nobody says it sounds dated. You just making stuff up now

 

[Piff Perkins]

I can vouch for this, wasn't a lot of us then (you, myself, Jayshiggs etc) but I remember you from back in the day.

People forget that except for Stillmatic and Lost Tapes, none of Nas releases were universally praised the way these Hitboy albums now seem to be. You had to be there to see that the boards were divided on Nas for years. It's 180'd now on the Coli.

I'm loving the Hitboy run myself, but really don't see why us Nas fans would object to criticism at this point - there's never been a consistent 4 year run of Nas praise and acclaim like we're seeing now, ever. Being a Nas fan has meant fighting off criticism since '95, a brief gap of universal praise when he released Stillmatic and Lost Tapes (and later Life is Good) but always division after. The last few years are unprecedented for Nas fandom.

This is why I don't get why some people are up in arms or will post some negative tweet or video with like 27 likes/views. Nas won a Grammy and got some solid reviews in the last couple years. Not all have been great, and it sucks that an independent label legend can't get consistent releases on RAP reviews. I'm not tripping over Rolling Stone or Pitchfork but XXL, HipHopDX, Vibe, etc should be reviewing Nas albums consistently. Regardless it's a good time and outside of some bitter old heads no one is really hating on these albums.

 

[Icewatermetallik]

Nobody says it sounds dated. You just making stuff up now

The problem is when people hear Nas on a Primo or Pete Rock track they want to hear the pinnacle of both artists. They wanna hear the next street banger like a "Nas is Like" or some nostalgic shyt like "Second Childhood" but Primo can't bang out hits like that anymore.

They wanna hear a "World is Yours" or "Art of It" but Pete can't make tracks like that anymore......

People want these guys to time travel back to 95' but they ain't in that space anymore.

 

[Surreal]

Isn't Pete Rock suing/sued Nas? Smh dudes even mentioning him is ridiculous

 

[IllmaticDelta]

Nobody says it sounds dated. You just making stuff up now

Yes they do/did. You must not remember what cats said about the Pete Rock joint on Lost tapes 2