Nas - King's Disease II (Discussion Thread)

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The more I listen to this album, the more I feel like this is the one I would give to someone who never heard Nas.

Aside from maybe Kast, I don't really hear any rappers from Nas's era that are able to adapt to now without sounding corny or out of touch. Like it doesn't sound like Nas trying to sound like the young dudes, but him sounding like a 2021 Nas.

My favorites:

Count Me In
40 Side
Nobody
Rare
Death Row East
Nas Is Good
 

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I'm not trying to hate here brehs...Album is dope but y'all give 5/5 on joints real easy :russ:

I think LIG is a 4.5/5 album

But the only joints on there that are 5/5 are Stay, Cherry Wine & Daughters....
 

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I'm trying to see him with an up and coming/current act, rather than a legacy act. We complain that there's no new generation spitters but don't put resources into them.

I'd like to see him pair with guys like Reason, JID, Cozz, guys like that potentially.

I can definitely picture Hit-Boy being paired with my nikka IDK too.
 

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My issue with the reviews is if it were Kings Disease 2 produced by Kanye West then these same publications (HHDX)would rate it higher. If Jayz rapped over these collection of beats, it would be marveled by pitchfork. What does Nas have to do to drop a universal critically acclaimed album?
 

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4.5/5
4.5/5
4/5
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4/5

I’m a hard critic :yeshrug:

Since we’re on the album, Summer on Smash 2/5:hhh:
Blasphemy breh! Where's The Love is a certified 5/5, from the beat to the rhymes and flow. Loco-Motive too…and SOS is not on my version :lolbron:

as far as this new joint

the 5/5 tracks are:

Nobody
Moments
Store Run
Rare
Pressure


And a bunch of 4.5/5 tracks
 

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My issue with the reviews is if it were Kings Disease 2 produced by Kanye West then these same publications (HHDX)would rate it higher. If Jayz rapped over these collection of beats, it would be marveled by pitchfork. What does Nas have to do to drop a universal critically acclaimed album?
 

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That's not true his Emceeing on King Disease 1 was better lyrically, technically, poetry, story telling then on King Disease 2 we seen a vicious combination of an elder Nasty Nas, The Wiser leader Boss of the family Nas Escobar, elder Black revolutionary Nasir and God Son that came together and blended perfectly, very similar to Pac on 7 Day Theory when different sides The Black Panther Rebel of The Underground, The Thug, The Poet, The torture blues Man, The West Coast Rider, The Black Jesus learn to co exist together.

King Disease is a better album then King Disease 2 not only lyrically but sonically Ultra Black was that single that this album didn't have, Car 85, The Firm reunion and so much more, The album just have that feeling that you listening to something great, an event. I can go on. But hip hop fans know that album was Nas

King Disease 2 was beating my Chest, acknowledge me, I'm that Gangsta, I got that money now, I'm that nikka that from the east coast that didn't back down from Pac and Hit-Boy I'm better than my teacher. It felt like they wanted the respect that they deserve when really they had the respect, and that's why in some of the fan's and music critic eyes it seem forced.

It's a great hip hop album, Not a Classic Album and not better than the original

:mjlol:

It’s all opinions but you are flat out wrong. There’s nothing better about the first kings disease. Nas sounds way more polished on this. Better beat switches, better guest spots, better production, more concept tracks, better song writing, better hooks, better flows, better delivery etc. Honestly it’s not even close. One an appetizer, the other is the main course.

:yeshrug:
 
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My issue with the reviews is if it were Kings Disease 2 produced by Kanye West then these same publications (HHDX)would rate it higher. If Jayz rapped over these collection of beats, it would be marveled by pitchfork. What does Nas have to do to drop a universal critically acclaimed album?


Nas’s shyt will only be “universally” loved by these white critics when he retires or passes. And its because he never relented to what CRITICS wanted and always did his own thing.


He’s been traditionally beloved by actual publications and critics that come FROM the culture. People forget Rolling Stone shytted on It Was Written, I Am, Stillmatic and God’s Son. But XXL and The Source gave him high marks. Cacfork gave Untitled a 2.8 score whilst The Source gave him 4.5 Mics. We don’t have any publications geared strictly towards RAP anymore to counter the bullshyt these white hipsters write on a whim.


As fans all we can do is boast up him up when we can. Buy the albums. Tout the good reviews he DOES get. Go to the shows. He won a Grammy THIRTY YEARS into his career and is still charting top 5 on billboard as a 48 year old MC. The mainstream isn’t forgetting about Nas anytime soon. He’s also going to garner another Grammy nom for next year and possibly multiples. He’s in a great position.
 
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My issue with the reviews is if it were Kings Disease 2 produced by Kanye West then these same publications (HHDX)would rate it higher. If Jayz rapped over these collection of beats, it would be marveled by pitchfork. What does Nas have to do to drop a universal critically acclaimed album?
Theres no way to go factually say that and its the mindframe like that that makes Nas fans/stans look insecure. fukk them reviews. I literally just reread the Vibe magazine review of IWW where they shytted on that album…no Jay-Z agenda to lean on…just shytted on it cuz they thought he went commercial…and that review means shyt to me because that is my GOAT album
 

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It’s all opinions but you are flat out wrong. There’s nothing better about the first kings disease. Nas sounds way more polished on this. Better beat switches, better guest spots, better production, more concept tracks, better song writing, better hooks, better flows, better delivery etc. Honestly it’s not even close. One an appetizer, the other is the main course.

:yeshrug:

See y'all the type of nikkas that get caught up in the moment me I don't do that, I don't let that shyt get to me. I played King Disease 2 around 5 times now twice in the car to catch that Zone and yesterday I played King Disease 1 with details to lyrics, the beats, the subject Nas Rhyming about against King Disease 2. And my opinion haven't changed
 
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