Nas Is Already ‘Halfway Through’ His Next Album With Hit-Boy

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Better than Hit-Boy beats. As if Alchemist still isn't fire? :childplease:

He said Alchemist is an overrated white boy :mjlol:

If Nas announced and dropped an Alchemist album they'll be in a thread stanning saying it's the greatest thing ever. Some of them couldn't even bring themselves to say Nasir wasn't good. They're really just here for Nas so don't even bother arguing or trying to get any objectivity out of them.
 

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Just because a producer can do different styles doesn't mean he does the style as well as said producer he’s trying to imitate, I think Hit Boy is a top 5 producer right now but Metro Boomin can do other styles as well, Alchemist not so much but he does his style better than everyone else including Hitboy.

At the same time We Gon Make It doesn’t sound like Johnny P’s Caddy, so I think most of the top producers can do multiple styles themselves.

I agree with that and I would put Al and Metro ahead of Hit on the current produers list but my whole thing is if you're gonna want him to get with a producer who does different styles hes already with one.

And hes the one who knows Nas as an artist and has time for him vs just sending a beat tape for him to rap over. If theres anything to point to what may have fatigued this album is that Hit's been working on a lot past year including his dad's stuff and that may have contributed to the beats not progressing. Metros super busy working with a lot of people and Al too and they dont have to prove anything like Hit did in 2020.

I just dont know if hes gonna abandon Hit for guys who might be better but may give him the same results unless they can committ to working with him.
 
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He said Alchemist is an overrated white boy :mjlol:

If Nas announced and dropped an Alchemist album they'll be in a thread stanning saying it's the greatest thing ever. Some of them couldn't even bring themselves to say Nasir wasn't good. They're really just here for Nas so don't even bother arguing or trying to get any objectivity out of them.

Why would you be surprised of Nas stans in a Nas thread stanning? That makes no sense at all. Any fan of any artist is going to anticipate the music regardless of the features and who is behind the boards. Maybe I'm off base, but it makes less sense to me when people go in a Nas thread and dismiss something haven't even heard yet, but suggest he get other producers just because. Then at the same time bash the fan base for coming at them for the suggestion. Simply put, if you're there for a Nas album, does it really matter who is producing the music? It doesn't mean anyone is automatically supposed to like it, but to completely dismiss it when not one note was even heard is crazy.
 

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He said Alchemist is an overrated white boy :mjlol:

If Nas announced and dropped an Alchemist album they'll be in a thread stanning saying it's the greatest thing ever. Some of them couldn't even bring themselves to say Nasir wasn't good. They're really just here for Nas so don't even bother arguing or trying to get any objectivity out of them.

I'll be surprised if Al does a whole album for Nas cause I think he had a experience with the head of Mass Appeal going back to when it was just Deacon before Nas invested in it and I remember he called him cheap

Hes cool with Nas and even Hit obviously still but I dont know what his feelings are producing something on the Mass Appeal label
 

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I agree with that and I would put Al and Metro ahead of Hit on the current produers list but dont my whole thing is if you;re gonna want him to get with a producer who does different styles hes already with one. And hes one who knows Nas as an artist and has time for him vs just sending a beat tape for him to rap over. If theres anything to point to what may have fatigued this album is that Hit's been working on a lot past year including his dad's stuff and that may have contributed to the beats not progressing. Metros super busy working with a lot of people and Al too and they dont have to prove anything like Hit did in 2020.

I just dont know if hes abandon Hit for guys who might be better but may give him the same results unless they can committ to working with him.

I would want Hit to executive producer and still have songs produced by him on any near future Nas album, I don’t think he should abandon him just mix it up a bit like he has done in the past, like i said before even MJ had to branch out from Quincy.
 

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I would want Hit to executive producer and still have songs produced by him on any near future Nas album, I don’t think he should abandon him just mix it up a bit like he has done in the past, like i said before even MJ had to branch out from Quincy.

Like I said in the Nas thread the Benny album thats supposed to be out next month will probably be a good litmus to see how it works. Its produced by Hit Boy and Alchemist completely

But also who knows, we're doing the fanagers thing again putting up Exec producer titles and the lot lol
 
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He said Alchemist is an overrated white boy :mjlol:

If Nas announced and dropped an Alchemist album they'll be in a thread stanning saying it's the greatest thing ever. Some of them couldn't even bring themselves to say Nasir wasn't good. They're really just here for Nas so don't even bother arguing or trying to get any objectivity out of them.


I also said that every Nas/Hit Boy album has outsold every Alchemist/insert rapper album. I said that Nas/Hit-Boy albums are more critically acclaimed than Alchemist/Insert rapper albums. I said Nas and Hit-Boy defeated Alchemist/Freddie Gibbs for the Grammy when they went head to head, the Grammy that Alchemist out of his OWN mouth said he desperately wanted to win.

So the combination of sales/acclaim/and accolades are all in favor in Nas and Hit Boy.

Why EXACTLY would Nas need to work with Alchemist again? What makes Alchemist NOT overrated on these boards when it comes to posters acting like he could give Nas something Hit Boy can’t when Hit and his production has literally given Nas EVERYTHING he’s been missing?


Like I said before, if you look at the results of Nas and Hit Boy’s work and think “Alchemist could somehow do better” you either a troll or you think the white man’s ice is colder. Simple as that.
 

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I also said that every Nas/Hit Boy album has outsold every Alchemist/insert rapper album. I said that Nas/Hit-Boy albums are more critically acclaimed than Alchemist/Insert rapper albums. I said Nas and Hit-Boy defeated Alchemist/Freddie Gibbs for the Grammy when they went head to head, the Grammy that Alchemist out of his OWN mouth said he desperately wanted to win.

So the combination of sales/acclaim/and accolades are all in favor in Nas and Hit Boy.

Why EXACTLY would Nas need to work with Alchemist again? What makes Alchemist NOT overrated on these boards when it comes to posters acting like he could give Nas something Hit Boy can’t when Hit and his production has literally given Nas EVERYTHING he’s been missing?


Like I said before, if you look at the results of Nas and Hit Boy’s work and think “Alchemist could somehow do better” you either a troll or you think the white man’s ice is colder. Simple as that.

Breh come on I normally agree with what you say but Alchemist undoubtedly has better rap resume than Hitboy, is it even an argument?

When did we start arguing about sales as Nas fans? What is even the argument when a Hitboy and Nas album is still yet to go Gold, it isn’t selling crazy either, in fact apart from the critical acclaim and the one overdue Grammy that was given to the worst album of the series something we both agree with Nas isn’t any more relevant or doing any better sales wise than he was doing before Hitboy, an Alchemist and Nas album would do about the same.

The one thing you’re missing in your post is the Nas factor, you shouldn’t expect an album with Boldy James to get the same attention as an album with the GOAT neither should you expect it to reach the same highs, but all of ALC releases in recent years have been critically acclaimed the difference is he has been working with mid tier rappers to do whole albums rather than the GOAT himself.

If we focus on solely production though and leave the rest of that shyt out, he hasn’t missed a beat, there is not one song on Nas new album that has better production than Johnny ps caddy and there isn’t one song in the whole Nas and Hitboy series that has garnered as much attention sold as much records or has as much streams as that one record also.

You can say that’s down to J Cole which is partly true but Nas also had the biggest best selling rapper of all time on KD2 and it didn’t do as well, compare the streams the views then compare the production.

Hitboy is a great producer but he isn’t a better rap producer than ALC, I don’t know why people want to rewrite history to push him above his station just because of one average product in Nasir that wasn’t even that bad, Nas had been on a mean run before he did that album, LIfe is Good was a classic, after all, Nas has a great discography even discarding this recent series the thing you should be giving him credit for is sparking Nas appetite to release more music not acting as if he somewhat resurrected the career of someone who was widely considered GOAT before Hit boy ever downloaded an app on his computer to produce with.
 

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I also said that every Nas/Hit Boy album has outsold every Alchemist/insert rapper album. I said that Nas/Hit-Boy albums are more critically acclaimed than Alchemist/Insert rapper albums. I said Nas and Hit-Boy defeated Alchemist/Freddie Gibbs for the Grammy when they went head to head, the Grammy that Alchemist out of his OWN mouth said he desperately wanted to win.

So the combination of sales/acclaim/and accolades are all in favor in Nas and Hit Boy.

Why EXACTLY would Nas need to work with Alchemist again? What makes Alchemist NOT overrated on these boards when it comes to posters acting like he could give Nas something Hit Boy can’t when Hit and his production has literally given Nas EVERYTHING he’s been missing?


Like I said before, if you look at the results of Nas and Hit Boy’s work and think “Alchemist could somehow do better” you either a troll or you think the white man’s ice is colder. Simple as that.

This is hip hop. I don't care about sales, Grammys, or what these white folks at any of these publications say. If that matters than how many of these Nas/Hit Boy songs are charting or getting RIAA certifications? Alchemist got a gold single with an underground artist and his song with Kendrick debuted at #16 on Billboard. He has a Grammy nomination with Gibbs and Nas winning that year could be a lifetime achievement award for all we know. Grammy awards are not an indication of the quality of music or what's relevant culturally. If they were Macklemore doesn't beat Kendrick. Grammys are a notch under an artists belt. They don't mean shyt to hip hop.

Y'all will shyt on a publication for a negative Nas review but be happy when the next album gets a positive review. Either they matter or they don't.

It's also disingenuous to act like Al isn't producing great albums on his own. He has albums with Roc Marci, Curren$y, Gibbs, Conway, etc. He's been active and releasing music constantly. He just chooses to work independently and with underground artists instead of chasing placements. His status in the overall producers rankings is moving up not down because of the work he's putting in. Anyone saying different isn't paying attention. He has all the acclaim you're pretending he doesn't. Ask real people who are part of the culture. He's pretty much the current king of the underground and street music and that's from a producer who's 20+ years in.

I'm not one of the people asking for Nas to work with Al. I'm good with Al working with Griselda and anyone else. If anything he needs to do the Primo album he teased. He can do 50 more Hit Boy albums if he wants after that but plenty of people want something different and that's not just because it's Hit Boy. Even if he was working with Alchemist or Primo 6 albums in 4 years is overkill and it's only natural for people to want hear a rapper work with different producers.
 
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Magic 2 is lackluster as hell. Even the sound quality is butt-ass :gucci:

Cornballs said they don’t wanna hear Nas over Preemo beats :mjlol:


Way better than anything on Magic 2 :ufdup:

This was the most throaway of moden preemo beats. Cool song but if you want back with Premo its gotta be better than this

This is not better than The Motion, Office Hours, Slow it Down beats
 
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