Oh I didn't know you were retarded let me try and rephrase my discussion. I didn't comment on the movie because I don't care for it. I was commenting on the canon material written by a well knowledged Toriyama. If you wanna claim that as canon then we might as well consider that ova toriyama wrote a little while back where vegeta had a little brother that nobody knew about or seen in any flashbacks until now Hell we might as well ssj4 as canon since Toriyama did the character design for it LMFAOOOOOOOO.
Dude I'm trying to have a conversation with you, why are you throwing names...
I would consider Tarble is also canon because yes Toriyama wrote him into the story and he is also mentioned in Dragon Ball Z Battle of Gods.But canon in DBZ is a cloudy area, because it's blurred and almost based solely on interpretation. Is something canon if it wasn't in the manga? if that's the case most of the anime is non canon. Or if it contradicts the storyline? in that case the manga isn't even canon. Or some people even say flat out all movies are non canon no matter what.
So all we can do is pick and choose based on our own guidelines because there is no OFFICIAL statement saying what counts and what doesn't. Some movies are even treated as canon just because it fits into the storyline IE, History of Trunks. Bojack Unbound, etc.
So whether or not you want to believe it to be true canon or not is your own opinion.
All I know is that what I said happened.