My problem with Wakanda as a fictional concept (No B.S. zone)

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Your video games, shoes and most of what you own are from white supremacists. You shouldn't look at it as an escape

 

[David_TheMan]

Why would you work to see the death of the only black society that has escaped the clutches of white supremacy just because they don't actively challenge it but simply isolate themselves? You are thinking like the typical hoe. You are emotional.

'Wakanda' is a starting point to help black people to even visualize a society not in dominated by European paradigms. You don't work to destroy that you try to build upon it.

Why would I seek to support a country complicit in wronging my forefathers and standing side by side with white supremacist nations?
LOL.

That said that you call me a hoe and then have the nerve to call me emotional, shows you aren't operating on a logical level. So have at it.

 

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Damn, I need to come back to this thread

 

[BlackJesus]

Why would I seek to support a country complicit in wronging my forefathers and standing side by side with white supremacist nations?
LOL.

That said that you call me a hoe and then have the nerve to call me emotional, shows you aren't operating on a logical level. So have at it.

Chances are you LIVE in a white supremacist nation and actively engage with whites for jobs, food, shelter etc. In the stories, Wakandans don't engage or interact with white people at all. They are not standing 'side by side', their mere existence is an affront to white supremacists.

How are you NOT complicit hypocrite?

 

[David_TheMan]

Chances are you LIVE in a white supremacist nation and actively engage with whites for jobs, food, shelter etc. In the stories, Wakandans don't engage or interact with white people at all. They are not standing 'side by side', their mere existence is an affront to white supremacists.

How are you NOT complicit hypocrite?

Per the movie Wakandans do in fact engage with white nations, on top of that they stood by complicit in the raping of the african continent, the various slave trades, and the subhuman treatment of black world wide while they stayed on their perch taking care of themselves first.

In their acitons they've shown to not be friends of black of the diaspora at all, they are no different than the whites in their world .

I'm not a complicit hypocrite, because wakanda is a fictional country, not a real one, and I'm talking about a movie universe and hypothetical mindsets and ideas, not reality.
Now talking in world, fiction, I wouldn't be a hypocrite because I am not taking a hypocritical stance, its consistent. Do you know what hypocrisy actually means, or are you trying to use words that you think will make your emotional outburst have greater weight?

 

[BlackJesus]

Per the movie Wakandans do in fact engage with white nations, on top of that they stood by complicit in the raping of the african continent, the various slave trades, and the subhuman treatment of black world wide while they stayed on their perch taking care of themselves first.

In their acitons they've shown to not be friends of black of the diaspora at all, they are no different than the whites in their world .

I'm not a complicit hypocrite, because wakanda is a fictional country, not a real one, and I'm talking about a movie universe and hypothetical mindsets and ideas, not reality.
Now talking in world, fiction, I wouldn't be a hypocrite because I am not taking a hypocritical stance, its consistent. Do you know what hypocrisy actually means, or are you trying to use words that you think will make your emotional outburst have greater weight?

Almost every west African country was 'complicit' and even participated in the slave trade you dolt. And they are real not fictional. Are you going to go after them too?

Yes you are a hypocrite. You live and engage with whites and need them for your daily bread. But you have some sort of weird vendetta against a fictional country you say helps white supremacists. You sound like a complete idiot.

Thank God your opinion is not the majority of black folks. Wakanda is symbol of black excellence, not betrayal. And they had no part in the slave trade in the stories. They simply isolate themselves to protect their country from whites. It's sensible and understandable.

 

[David_TheMan]

Almost every west African country was 'complicit' and even participated in the slave trade you dolt. And they are real not fictional. Are you going to go after them too?

Yes you are a hypocrite. You live and engage with whites and need them for your daily bread. But you have some sort of weird vendetta against a fictional country you say helps white supremacists. You sound like a complete idiot.

Thank God your opinion is not the majority of black folks. Wakanda is symbol of black excellence, not betrayal. And they had no part in the slave trade in the stories. They simply isolate themselves to protect their country from whites. It's sensible and understandable.

Nothing you said changes my opinion.
You say I'm a hypocrite, yet you can't even logically explain how I'm a hypocrite.

The fact that you think Black Panther is anything more than popcorn entertainment, and that a work of fiction created by two jews is the embodiment of black excellence speaks more of your mindset than anything I could ever expose by taking you deeper into a conversation.

 

[BlackJesus]

Nothing you said changes my opinion.
You say I'm a hypocrite, yet you can't even logically explain how I'm a hypocrite.

The fact that you think Black Panther is anything more than popcorn entertainment, and that a work of fiction created by two jews is the embodiment of black excellence speaks more of your mindset than anything I could ever expose by taking you deeper into a conversation.

Bro who created Black panther is irrelevant. Racist slave owning white men created America and you still live here lol.

Whether they were Jewish or Romanian or Mongolian is irrelevant. What's important is Black Panther celebrates and glorifies African culture. Its changing hearts and minds the world over. Black panther was created before you were born and it will be here long after you are dead. Art is forever.

Wakanda forever, hater.

 

[David_TheMan]

Bro who created Black panther is irrelevant. Racist slave owning white men created America and you still live here lol.

Whether they were Jewish or Romanian or Mongolian is irrelevant. What's important is Black Panther celebrates and glorifies African culture. Its changing hearts and minds the world over. Black panther was created before you were born and it will be here long after you are dead. Art is forever.

Wakanda forever, hater.

If I said the US was a symbol of black excellence your first sentence might have a semblance of making sense, but I didn't, so it doesn't.

Black Panther festishizes blackness and africa, as the early posts in this thread show.
Black Panther isn't chaning any hearts or minds over the world at all, its entertainment. The world has always enjoyed black entertainment in movies, music, and sports.

Wakanda is fictional breh, its sad that you grasp on to a fictional land, when reality there are real accomplishments that blacks have done all over the world and in africa to actually be proud of.

 

[BlackJesus]

If I said the US was a symbol of black excellence your first sentence might have a semblance of making sense, but I didn't, so it doesn't.

Black Panther festishizes blackness and africa, as the early posts in this thread show.
Black Panther isn't chaning any hearts or minds over the world at all, its entertainment. The world has always enjoyed black entertainment in movies, music, and sports.

Wakanda is fictional breh, its sad that you grasp on to a fictional land, when reality there are real accomplishments that blacks have done all over the world and in africa to actually be proud of.

You are the one not making any sense.

You'd rather go after the leader of a fictional country over some bytch-ass, imaginary grief, than the actual real country that really fukked you and your people over. Like, what in the actual fukk??

Live in the country that ENSLAVED your ancestors but complain about a country that doesn't exist over the same thing?

You are a complete p*ssy and a complete hypocrite. You sit down to pee, fakkit.

You don't want no real smoke with the actual people that matter or that hurt you. fukk fiction. End of the day this is not even about Black Panther but really illustrates your bytch-ass mindset.

 

[David_TheMan]

You are the one not making any sense.

You'd rather go after the leader of a fictional country over some bytch-ass, imaginary grief, than the actual real country that really fukked you and your people over. Like, what in the actual fukk??

Live in the country that ENSLAVED your ancestors but complain about a country that doesn't exist over the same thing?

You are a complete p*ssy and a complete hypocrite. You sit down to pee, fakkit.

You don't want no real smoke with the actual people that matter or that hurt you. fukk fiction. End of the day this is not even about Black Panther but really illustrates your bytch-ass mindset.

You are confused that is why you think I'm not making any sense. I mean you literally said Black Panther is a symbole of black excellence.

I haven't gone after the leader of a fictional country at all. You don't even know my real world stances, you are just angry that I don't look at black panther the film and media property with reverence that you clearly have.

Yes live in a country that enslaved my ancestors and that my ancerstors built and fought for me to get the rights in that I have today.

I'm a p*ssy and hypocrite because I would hold wakanda to the same standard that I would hold any nation that did what they did? Again kid, you are so emotional you can't even try to make a logical reply. lol

I don't want smoke? What are you talking about kid?
Yes Black Panther is fiction, it seems you have problems understanding that.
Its all about Black Panther to you, you've already posted that.

 

[BlackJesus]

You are confused that is why you think I'm not making any sense.

I haven't gone after the leader of a fictional country at all. You don't even know my real world stances, you are just angry that I don't look at black panther the film and media property with reverence that you clearly have.

Yes live in a country that enslaved my ancestors and that my ancerstors built and fought for me to get the rights in that I have today.

Here is a direct quote from you:

As a concept Wakanda shows a total failure, if for instance Wakanda existed in the real world I would want nothing to do with its people, and I would hate and work to see the death of black panther along with others who either participated in or consented to the system of white supremacy that dominates the world.

You don't hold Wakanda to 'the same standard'. You believe it would be their job and responsibility to save you from white supremacists. And since they wouldn't you'd throw a tantrum. And fantasize about killing black panther. Basic hoe-shyt.

But you'd do absolutely to nothing to America or to it's leaders. Even after admitting they are they ones who enslaved your ancestors. In fact they and their transgressions are invisible to you. All you see is what 'black panther' is not doing. Childish. You think like a woman.

Logic?lol. You are surrounded by the actual system of white supremacists and you don't work to do shyt about it do you?

 

[David_TheMan]

Here is a direct quote from you:



You don't hold Wakanda to 'the same standard'. You believe it would be their job and responsibility to save you from white supremacists. And since they wouldn't you'd throw a tantrum. And fantasize about killing black panther. Basic hoe-shyt.

But you'd do absolutely to nothing to America or to it's leaders. Even after admitting they are they ones who enslaved your ancestors. In fact they and their transgressions are invisible to you. All you see is what 'black panther' is not doing. Childish. You think like a woman.

Logic?lol. You are surrounded by the actual system of white supremacists and you don't work to do shyt about it do you?

Yep my quote is easy to see and nothing that I denied.
You say I don't hold Wakanda to the same standard as other nations, any proof on that? Nope. Just operating off emotion because I don't like a fictional character or society that you now worship.

I feel the same way about the US, france, UK, and the western powers that have implemented and spread the global system of white supremacy. I simply added wakanda to the mix.

Yes logic breh, you have none, too emotional. Having a conniption fit.

 

[BlackJesus]

Yep my quote is easy to see and nothing that I denied.
You say I don't hold Wakanda to the same standard as other nations, any proof on that? Nope. Just operating off emotion because I don't like a fictional character or society that you now worship.

I feel the same way about the US, france, UK, and the western powers that have implemented and spread the global system of white supremacy. I simply added wakanda to the mix.

Yes logic breh, you have none, too emotional. Having a conniption fit.

Except Wakanda did not 'implement' any system at all. They simply closed themselves off. That is entirely within their rights. Isolation is not action, it's inaction. They did nothing but safeguard their country.

You are a vindictive hoe who believes it's the responsibility of others to save you.

Emotion? I'm not the only throwing childish tantrums and calling for the death of black panther lol.

 

[David_TheMan]

Except Wakanda did not 'implement' any system at all. They simply closed themselves off. That is entirely within their rights. Isolation is not action, it's inaction. They did nothing but safeguard their country.

You are a vindictive hoe who believes it's the responsibility of others to save you.

I didn't say Wakanda implemented anything. Try reading breh. Seems that is your main problem, so emotional you aren't reading what it written.

How can I be vindictive about a work of fiction? You do realize Wakanda and black panther are works of fiction right?