My problem with Wakanda as a fictional concept (No B.S. zone)

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Seems to me the purpose of the thread is simple, to spark a discussion.

@videogamestashbox.com I would say I don't think Wakanda would have to have any issue with Pan-Africanism. As long as they show blacks from all over not identifying with them and them not identifying with them.
In that context it could work and it would make perfect sense storywise in terms of politics intra the black race.
The thing I don't like about the movie that I see being pushed by the shea butters on social media is that wakanda or Black Panther shows an ideal, to me it doesn't.
As a concept Wakanda shows a total failure, if for instance Wakanda existed in the real world I would want nothing to do with its people, and I would hate and work to see the death of black panther along with others who either participated in or consented to the system of white supremacy that dominates the world. to me though that attitude could be a very powerful and engaging storyline, but its a area I doubt marvel wants to really venture into, without pulling the black panther wakandans are good blacks that hate them are "evil" blinded by "rage" and not realizing we are "all the same" (tm)
 

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Not getting the exact purpose of this thread?

The purpose of that thread seems to be saying...

The political and socioeconomic ideal that Black Panther is being portrayed as in the media does not challenge White Supremacist notions or White Supremacy itself.

It's really a circle jerk..between European ideals of what Africa is missing and Black American ideals of what Africa could be...

Combine you have Wakanda and the Black Panther.
 
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Seems to me the purpose of the thread is simple, to spark a discussion.

@videogamestashbox.com I would say I don't think Wakanda would have to have any issue with Pan-Africanism. As long as they show blacks from all over not identifying with them and them not identifying with them.
In that context it could work and it would make perfect sense storywise in terms of politics intra the black race.
The thing I don't like about the movie that I see being pushed by the shea butters on social media is that wakanda or Black Panther shows an ideal, to me it doesn't.
As a concept Wakanda shows a total failure, if for instance Wakanda existed in the real world I would want nothing to do with its people, and I would hate and work to see the death of black panther along with others who either participated in or consented to the system of white supremacy that dominates the world. to me though that attitude could be a very powerful and engaging storyline, but its a area I doubt marvel wants to really venture into, without pulling the black panther wakandans are good blacks that hate them are "evil" blinded by "rage" and not realizing we are "all the same" (tm)

If Wakanda existed in the real world, I would want nothing to do with it.

It's really a weird oppressive society.

It actually reminds me of Saudi Arabia.

Wakanda is only worth something because they have Vibranium.

They created some sort of socio-political-religious caste system to keep the people under their control.

Wakanda is also very cowardly, they seal themselves off from the rest of the world because they think they were be controlled by everyone...yet they are the richest and most technology place on the planet and for some reason will send the children of the elite to be educated elsewhere.
 

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If Wakanda existed in the real world, I would want nothing to do with it.

It's really a weird oppressive society.

It actually reminds me of Saudi Arabia.

Wakanda is only worth something because they have Vibranium.

They created some sort of socio-political-religious caste system to keep the people under their control.

Wakanda is also very cowardly, they seal themselves off from the rest of the world because they think they were be controlled by everyone...yet they are the richest and most technology place on the planet and for some reason will send the children of the elite to be educated elsewhere.



Have you ever read a fukking black panther comic and wonder WHY they don't share anything with the outside world??? :pantherscust:
 

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Uh... Yea its a movie. And so its obviously not challenging WS. The anti-Black Panther crowd always claiming that the people who are hyped about this film are making ridiculous statements meanwhile they are too just as much. And nothing about Wakanda is oppressive. I don't get where that came from. Wakanda is more like Great Zimbabwe, Mali Empire or Ancient Kush.
 

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If Wakanda existed in the real world, I would want nothing to do with it.

It's really a weird oppressive society.

It actually reminds me of Saudi Arabia.

Wakanda is only worth something because they have Vibranium.

They created some sort of socio-political-religious caste system to keep the people under their control.

Wakanda is also very cowardly, they seal themselves off from the rest of the world because they think they were be controlled by everyone...yet they are the richest and most technology place on the planet and for some reason will send the children of the elite to be educated elsewhere.


There's nothing "cowardly" about cultural pride and having sovereignty ...

I'm sure Wakanda would be at a great loss without you :mjlol:
 

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B b b b b but wakanda doesn’t pose a threat to global institution racism :damn:
 
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