Porzinigs could suck all year and he'd be as much to blame as the Knicks City Dancers in terms of why this franchise cant get out of its own way.
My Posse's On Broadway: Official NY Knicks 2016-2017 Season Thread
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Porzinigs could suck all year and he'd be as much to blame as the Knicks City Dancers in terms of why this franchise cant get out of its own way.
ogc163
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Benching Melo would be great, it would piss him off so much he might consider waiving his NTC.
And now, Noah, too.
Well, there are plenty of examples of great players that came off the bench and played starters minutes, because it gave them a shot to start games against second units, and get a rhythm when the team needed a scorer.
I agree that KP is the future, and I wouldn't necessarily want him coming off the bench, but I see the value of him or rose doing just that.
OR, KP is the first sub out for somebody like Holiday... and then you bring him back in early with the second unit.
When I was coaching AAU, rotations were always tough to figure out, because everyone thinks the best five players start -- but that's not necessarily the case.
THIS MAY BE THE WORST DEFENSIVE TEAM IVE EVER SEEN.
THEY GIVE UP SO MANY EASY BUCKETS
ON SIMPLE ASS PLAYS.
THIS MAY BE THE WORST BENCH IN THE NBA ALSO.
THEY SHOULD HAVE TOOK THAT NOAH MONEY
AND GOT SOME DEPTH.
I NEVER LIKED THAT SIGNING
BECAUSE I SAW HIM WASHED
THE LAST 2 YEARS.
They have a BUNCH of players in the starting lineup that have either: never defended with any kind of consistent effort/understanding OR don't have the movement skills to do it anymore.
The Noah signing is going to hurt for a while.
He has a little bit of the KOQ thing, where sometimes he holds on to it trying too hard to make the perfect pass. But really what kills me is that he's simply not a threat to score at all. And because his man just hangs by the basket, he can't even get a few easy ones by cutting at the right times a la even somebody like Capella.
SIDENOTE:
I always find myself kinda chuckling when I move through this thread, because you can tell who doesn't really understand basketball by defining "coming off the bench" as "being benched" -- this is why you muhfukkas weren't shyt on your middle school team, and had to retire to 2k
What sucks about this is....we could have had Lopez as a legit asset/trade piece this year. I've always been a huge Noah fan and he's the guy this franchise has needed...just not now. Phil I tend to think doesnt know what he's doing but the total pivot this offseason seemed to come from other people inside the organization(as usual).
I'd rather have the ball in the hands of the guy who can get to the rim at will
We'd all like to have Russell Westbrook.
THEIR DEFENSIVE WOES CAN BE FIXED WITH SIMPLE ADJUSTMENTS...
PORZINGIS LOVES TO WANDER AWAY FROM SHOOTERS
WHICH CAUSES A COMPLETE BREAK DOWN
WHEN THE BALL IS KICKED TO HIS MAN.
THIS TEAM JUST DOESNT ROTATE ON DEFENSE...
WHICH MEANS YOULL NEVER SEE A DOUBLE ROTATION.
EVERY TIME NOAH STEPPED UP TO HELP ON HARDEN,
NO ONE ROTATED TO NOAHS MAN
WHICH RESULTED IN SIMPLE LOB PASSES.
BRINGING IN A DEFENSIVE COORDINATOR
CAN FIX THIS shyt EASILY.
THIS DUDES HAVE BEEN GETTING BEAT ON HIGH SCHOOL CUTS SINCE GAME 1.
ITS HARD TO GET EASY BUCKETS WHEN YOURE NOT CAUSING MISSES
ON THE OTHER END.
JUST BECOMING AVERAGE ON D
WILL MAKE THEM ONE OF THE BETTER TEAMS IN THE EAST.
Wargames
One Of The Last Real Ones To Do It
Its tough for me to call it. Its still early..... And we got our pick this year.... I don't want to really be to critical of them yet. 82 games in a season after all. It's also clear defense is the issue, but they got the players necessary to at least be a decent defense. Hopefully Hornecek gets them to commit to defense watching the game tapes.
With that said.......
Honestly as long as they don't trade any Gawd Damn Picks. They could suck this year and Phil would still be the best GM in recent memory
With that said.......
Honestly as long as they don't trade any Gawd Damn Picks. They could suck this year and Phil would still be the best GM in recent memory
Melo's basketball IQ has remained the same his entire career. He has no idea how to impact a game with anything other than scoring. smdh
SadimirPutin
Superstar
catch and shoot opportunities for Melo is what Hornacek should be looking to maximize...get Carmelo mostly offball touches and I guarantee you the Knicks become a whole different team
THEIR DEFENSIVE WOES CAN BE FIXED WITH SIMPLE ADJUSTMENTS...
PORZINGIS LOVES TO WANDER AWAY FROM SHOOTERS
WHICH CAUSES A COMPLETE BREAK DOWN
WHEN THE BALL IS KICKED TO HIS MAN.
THIS TEAM JUST DOESNT ROTATE ON DEFENSE...
WHICH MEANS YOULL NEVER SEE A DOUBLE ROTATION.
EVERY TIME NOAH STEPPED UP TO HELP ON HARDEN,
NO ONE ROTATED TO NOAHS MAN
WHICH RESULTED IN SIMPLE LOB PASSES.
BRINGING IN A DEFENSIVE COORDINATOR
CAN FIX THIS shyt EASILY.
THIS DUDES HAVE BEEN GETTING BEAT ON HIGH SCHOOL CUTS SINCE GAME 1.
ITS HARD TO GET EASY BUCKETS WHEN YOURE NOT CAUSING MISSES
ON THE OTHER END.
JUST BECOMING AVERAGE ON D
WILL MAKE THEM ONE OF THE BETTER TEAMS IN THE EAST.
One of the most sensible posts in this thread, and it's not even from a Knicks fan
.I appreciate you Bulls brethren for your unbiased input
Hornacek said Knicks have to get KP the ball more
Let's see what type of adjustments are made for the next game...
Let's see what type of adjustments are made for the next game...
Illuminatos
#OVOXO
Porzingis shouldn't even be out on the perimeter guarding shooters. Dude is fast for a 7'3" player but he's still 7'3". I'm sick of seeing him get killed on the perimeter by stretch 4s. 
Kid is a natural born rim proterctor and he shoulda been our starting Center this year. Phil Jackson should be publicly stoned for that Joakim Noah contract. 
Kid is a natural born rim proterctor and he shoulda been our starting Center this year. Phil Jackson should be publicly stoned for that Joakim Noah contract. 
Yeah, it was a weird set of moves. And honestly, if they just did Lee/Rose -- I would have been pretty happy. But Noah's deal is unmitigated disaster for this team.
THEIR DEFENSIVE WOES CAN BE FIXED WITH SIMPLE ADJUSTMENTS...
PORZINGIS LOVES TO WANDER AWAY FROM SHOOTERS
WHICH CAUSES A COMPLETE BREAK DOWN
WHEN THE BALL IS KICKED TO HIS MAN.
THIS TEAM JUST DOESNT ROTATE ON DEFENSE...
WHICH MEANS YOULL NEVER SEE A DOUBLE ROTATION.
EVERY TIME NOAH STEPPED UP TO HELP ON HARDEN,
NO ONE ROTATED TO NOAHS MAN
WHICH RESULTED IN SIMPLE LOB PASSES.
BRINGING IN A DEFENSIVE COORDINATOR
CAN FIX THIS shyt EASILY.
THIS DUDES HAVE BEEN GETTING BEAT ON HIGH SCHOOL CUTS SINCE GAME 1.
ITS HARD TO GET EASY BUCKETS WHEN YOURE NOT CAUSING MISSES
ON THE OTHER END.
JUST BECOMING AVERAGE ON D
WILL MAKE THEM ONE OF THE BETTER TEAMS IN THE EAST.
One of the most sensible posts in this thread, and it's not even from a Knicks fan
I appreciate you Bulls brethren for your unbiased input
The problem here is, defense is NOT easy to fix. If it were easy to go from trash to average on defense, teams would do it.
You have to have guys that are fully engaged, and understanding rotations, so they do it naturally. Then you need players who can also play defense.
Rose is a shytty defender at the point.
Melo is an - at best - uncommitted defender.
Porzingis is an untrained defender.
Noah can't change directions anymore AND has zero explosion to challenge shots.
So you have four people who either don't understand/practice rotations and/or can't do them physically.
Even if they had ONLY drilled defense from the beginning of camp to now with a defensive specialist, they'd still be ass. This team is not built to defend, as a whole. And in order to even be passable, they need to make a large amount of significant changes.
