But that's the point. KP is reacting to how the organization is being ran. Not to the triangle.
My Posse's On Broadway: Official NY Knicks 2016-2017 Season Thread
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But that's the point. KP is reacting to how the organization is being ran. Not to the triangle.
Wargames
One Of The Last Real Ones To Do It
After seeing what Cousins got the Kings, I would be ok with that. The deal could become larger (to give them more cap room), but Winslow and their first is what I would hope the core of it would be.
We would immediately become a better defensive team and younger similar to teams like the Lakers.
qnsfinest
Superstar
I agree with everything, plus if we get lucky that heat pick could possibly be top 10. I would love 2 top 10 picks this year.
Wargames
One Of The Last Real Ones To Do It
It's 14, only way it moves up is if it goes into the top 3 via the lottery. If that happened though
KnickstapeCity
BigDikktapeCity :shaq:
Before Prick Smugmaster, Melo took our team to the Eastern Conference Final
...even tho, Verticality ref FUKKERY ETHER'd us
My Knicka's the sole cause of this Titianic sequel/flimsy franchise
Eastern conference final? I must've went to the bathroom or something because I missed it.
Phil has won how many rings as an executive? He won with rosters given to him that also had Some of the greatest players in NBA history . His job now is not to coach he hired a coach (second coach ) to do that'.
He's taken no bullrts for melo he didn't even talk to the media this year !! Melo is the one who had to sit after every game addressing tweets and shyt Phil was sending out randomly .Melo didn't make any deals for any players and wasn't in on rose/Noah deals that was Phil same with the NTC . He is bashing Horny and saying he's gonna be more involved taking power from the coach while praising rambis ( who was the defensive coach for a horrible unit )
Who the team was on record hating since his time as interim.
GetInTheTruck
Member
That basketball is not "rocket science," that a team needs an identity and a set of standards that have to be upheld all the time in order to be successful all the time. Not just inefficient chucking, and players taking turns padding stats, taking days off on defense, usurping what the coach wants to run on the court, etc;
The inmates can't run the asylum, sorry. As for Melo, we had one good season with him, and it was only because we had vets that could keep him in check. Left to his own devices he's still a great player, but impossible to win with. Yeah it's fun watching him on his on days dropping 35-40+ points in all types of ways but it's ultimately getting us nowhere. At the end of the day he CAN'T GET IT DONE being the head honcho. Period.
I know it sounds cliche, but I'm siding with the mind who coached the greatest players of all time and has 11 championships under his belt
the media had it out for Phil the second he got here, why? Because they hate Dolan, and signing Phil was a Dolan move, not to mention Phil is the type of guy the NY media just hates - cool, confident, unflappable, and a resume with the chops to tell them to fukk off. They've constructed this narrative where Phil is ruining the team and you dudes are buying it partly out of your gullibility, and partly out of your love for Melo. Enough already.
The Knicks got to the playoffs multiple times with melo, zero wit Phil . He's the mind that COACHED those teams he didn't construct them ! He's a front office guy who isn't doing a good job . He's the one saying he interrupts practice and undermines the coaches!! Phil is saying that. He's also the one who decided to bash melo randomly when the Knicks were winning . Your missing the point in what Phil's role is on the teamThat basketball is not "rocket science," that a team needs an identity and a set of standards that have to be upheld all the time in order to be successful all the time. Not just inefficient chucking, and players taking turns padding stats, taking days off on defense, usurping what the coach wants to run on the court, etc;
The inmates can't run the asylum, sorry. As for Melo, we had one good season with him, and it was only because we had vets that could keep him in check. Left to his own devices he's still a great player, but impossible to win with. Yeah it's fun watching him on his on days dropping 35-40+ points in all types of ways but it's ultimately getting us nowhere. At the end of the day he CAN'T GET IT DONE being the head honcho. Period.
I know it sounds cliche, but I'm siding with the mind who coached the greatest players of all time and has 11 championships under his belt
Scottie Drippin
Should Never Mention Me
Up to this moment, I don't know why we should have any faith in Phil the executive. One good draft pick, one good trade (Willy), two horrible coaches, every signing ill-advised, and the operation an absolute mess.
That basketball is not "rocket science," that a team needs an identity and a set of standards that have to be upheld all the time in order to be successful all the time. Not just inefficient chucking, and players taking turns padding stats, taking days off on defense, usurping what the coach wants to run on the court, etc;
The inmates can't run the asylum, sorry. As for Melo, we had one good season with him, and it was only because we had vets that could keep him in check. Left to his own devices he's still a great player, but impossible to win with. Yeah it's fun watching him on his on days dropping 35-40+ points in all types of ways but it's ultimately getting us nowhere. At the end of the day he CAN'T GET IT DONE being the head honcho. Period.
I know it sounds cliche, but I'm siding with the mind who coached the greatest players of all time and has 11 championships under his belt
Knicks made the playoffs 3 straight years with Melo (yes they got bumped in the 1st round, but the also went up against Boston's big 3 & Miami's big 3). And this was the first year since Phil has been here that Melo had any type of help (Knicks should've made the playoffs this season with this roster).
So the fact that the team president is out here publicly bashing his players, that's okay with some of you? Even the players association had a problem with that. Not to mention he keeps on trying to get this triangle offense to work, instead of letting Hornacek run the offense that he's comfortable with or that they have the personnel for.
Phils been awful but that doesn't exempt Melo
Him simply making the playoffs a few times for us in a league where more then half the league makes it is not some amazing achievement that puts him as untouchable legend. Some of you make it seem like Phil broke up a contending team. He didn't.
The one positive of Phils awfulness is that we got a high pick from it and got KP and have another good pick coming. Which I prefer over being a lower to mid tier playoff team full of veterans but with no shot to win a title.
Even if we go by you Melo fans logic that it's never his fault and he's an amazing player what sense does it make for a rebuilding team to keep an aging 33 year old with a ton of NBA miles? And what sense does it make for Melo who only has a few good years left to stay on a team that isn't built to win anytime soon?
I can understand wanting Phil to go but I don't understand why even Melo fans can't understand our timetable to win and Melos dont match and it's best for both parties to move on.
Youhadasparkwhenustarted
Superstar
Got this from his feed a few days ago, and sums up why you should be worried about Phil moving foward. How Phil treats his players is a major concern, but this isn't just about that. When Phil speaks, he shows he's out of touch. He has mostly made bad moves over the past few years, and speaks like a man who's gonna make more in the future too. I don't care that the triangle won 10 years ago, that's some back in the day shyt, what has it done lately? Other teams take bits of the triangle and modify it to make it successful, but Phil doesn't even wanna do that. Plus, the triangle has only really been successful when Phil has coached it, all of his disciples have failed miserably trying to use it when they coach. One of those disciples-Kurt Rambis- has been beyond terrible as a coach, has consistently fielded some of the worst defenses in the nba the last 5 years he coached(might be more than that actually), and despite all of that, he is still the defensive coordinator of the New York Knicks. Kurt is a cancer, yet he's bulletproof as long as Phil is there( Did Phil even bring up Kurt once in his interview?).
As far as isolation ball goes, it can still work actually; it was a big part of why the Cavs won last year, and two of the biggest stars in the nba - Westbrook and Harden- iso like mad. So there is no reason to shyt on iso ball as a whole.
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Most people have acknowledged his flaws.
They aren't talked about because it's been discussed ad nauseam.
Most people believe that the argument to/against Melo as a Knick was most relevant at time of re-sign decision and if Phil contracted him and promised he'd attempt to build a contender than Phil's a fukkboy for not only botching his attempt but being so unprofessional in going about hinting at abandoning what he brought Melo on for.
Most of the people would have been cool if the acknowledgment of the Melo Experiment not working would have been handled w/ transparency and didn't understand how fans of the sport could have cosigned an owner/gm/president behaving the way he did considering the player has been professional.
Interestingly, I don't even believe anyone is even making ANY statements about "let's build around Melo."
I mean...are you seeing that in this thread? Or are you just using baseless talking points because you're being defensive?
Frump, don't be defensive...you're not Phil Jackson, nobody hates you, breh.
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Most people have acknowledged his flaws.
They aren't talked about because it's been discussed ad nauseam.
Most people believe that the argument to/against Melo as a Knick was most relevant at time of re-sign decision and if Phil contracted him and promised he'd attempt to build a contender than Phil's a fukkboy for not only botching his attempt but being so unprofessional in going about hinting at abandoning what he brought Melo on for.
Most of the people would have been cool if the acknowledgment of the Melo Experiment not working would have been handled w/ transparency and didn't understand how fans of the sport could have cosigned an owner/gm/president behaving the way he did considering the player has been professional.
Interestingly, I don't even believe anyone is even making ANY statements about "let's build around Melo."
I mean...are you seeing that in this thread? Or are you just using baseless talking points because you're being defensive?
Frump, don't be defensive...you're not Phil Jackson, nobody hates you, breh.
I'm talking about the few Melo fundamentalists in here who feel he can do no wrong. I agree the majority in here are reasonable even from the pro Melo camp.
I agree Phils been very bad but a few people are trying to create this narrative that we were some really good team that Phil broke up
