My Posse's On Broadway: Official NY Knicks 2016-2017 Season Thread

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Tanklife :pachaha:I'm about that.

But really if we move melo, unless we get a josh Jackson I see them tanking one more year for a sf......

I think we're going to get Ntilikina unless we win a top #3 pick. I also see them trading Melo for scraps and some future picks.

It's a ugly process but look at Boston..... that's the type of moves they made
Yea, but Boston fleeced the hell outta the nets:mjlol:
 

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Tanklife :pachaha:I'm about that.

But really if we move melo, unless we get a josh Jackson I see them tanking one more year for a sf......

I think we're going to get Ntilikina unless we win a top #3 pick. I also see them trading Melo for scraps and some future picks.

It's a ugly process but look at Boston..... that's the type of moves they made
Yea breh, I'm not disputing not criticizing anything you said. Honestly, my feelings on what I want for Melo has nothing to do with what I believe is inevitable next year.

My point is, the constant moaning and groaning about every made shot or scarce win is getting to bizarro levels - it's just so weird to see, even with me understanding and hoping we get a great draft slot.

I just want to pre-empt that shyt before next year, when we are supposed to be taking a "let the yout dem play" and enjoying their development, that complaining about every win is going to be backwards as hell.

Next year, "tank life" should go no further than hoping we see fun ass games and development from our prospects and not bashing them when they hit a few strides and string some wins together.

A lot of posters have criticisms of posters like me "not being down for a rebuild" but nikkas really have no basis to hate on anyone who expresses enjoyment when the prospects catch some W's. :hubie:

From the looks of it, the mood is since next year will be a rebuild year also, game 1, nikkas are going to be on some fire and brimstone shyt for anything in the win column. That's just corny as shyt.

I mean, without Melo & Rose in 2018, we should just enjoy whatever positive we see, or nah?
 

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Orlando plays the nets twice, no need to worry:yeshrug: I figure Phil will want either Fultz, Ball, or Frank out of all the PG's I can't see him picking Fox or Smith Jr.
 

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Why do you always try and throw that no one knows the game point in your post. Thr poster you quoted said that melo hurting KP game is a fallacy by a lot of people on this board . You just decided to make bunch of points up to argue that @seemorecizzy didn't say

Stop it.

The amount of "OOOOH LOOK KP WAS TRASH AGAIN WITHOUT MELO" and "Ooooh look, kp finally played good with melo on the floor" posts we have to slog through, as these kids work through their feelings, is hilarious.

Melo's presence on the floor helps KP.
Trying to build around Melo INSTEAD of KP hurts KP.

Why is that difference so hard for some of you to delineate? Is it on purpose? Like it or not, Porzingis represents the future of the franchise, and Melo represents the failed past. That's just he way it broke.

How many times are these guys gonna post that "KP flopped' this season - when he improved his efficiency in all the major categories, WITH a more than 15% increase in minutes.

  • He established himself as a top 3 defender at the rim.
  • He raised his FG%
  • he raised his 3pt%,
  • He's getting to the line more
  • he's shooting 12 points higher around the basket -- and this team somehow found a way to LOWER his usage rate.

This idea that Porzingis flopped is a FALLACY, and it has exists mainly on message boards like this, where guys don't bother - or purposely avoid - doing the research to back up a talking point.

And if you're using strawmen posts by some random idiot to defend your "see, guys are saying melo hurts him" argument, you already lost.

The sad fact is, this team has shyt talent. It's star player isn't a star anymore. It's next in line isn't ready, and they don't have the talent across the board to beat teams. Not this season, and not next season either.

That is the price you pay for trying to slap bandaids on a gunshot.

Why do you always try and throw that no one knows the game point in your post


This is why I say guys don't know what they're talking about -- because they don't. They don't understand the business of basketball. They don't understand fitment. They don't understand schemes or roster building or the salary cap. They have been refusing to see what was right in front of them for three seasons now.

They were seriously talking about top 4 seeds in the east, in the lead up to - and even 20 games or so INTO this season.

And make no mistake, when I say "they" -- I'm definitely talking about you.

My frustration is mainly that Baker and Randle played 15 mins and 1 minute while Rose and Lee played 30+; Kuz got 14 while Melo played 30+...The coach said he'd be resting the vets to give the young guys a better shot at earning a spot on next year's roster but he threw that away to chase a completely meaningless win. It's more important to see and develop the young cats right now, that's better for the long term and should shape offseason decisions but we're still playing known commodities big minutes when they actually could use the rest if we have any interest in keeping them through next season.

This. It's not just about "losing" -- it's about doing what is best longterm for the team. Why is Derrick Rose still in the game? You can't trade him. Any injury would CRIPPLE his next contract's value. Why is courtney lee playing 30 minutes? You know his game. Play baker and randle, see if Ndour is a back of the rotation big. Bring up Jovanovic or Lamb -- offer a 10 day to Moreland or Jackson or Vander Blue.

Get some guys in here that could help fill out a roster, while you try to acquire top-end talent.


@Mr. Jack Napier out here acting like a petty baby momma, he a couple of posts away from limiting visitation rights to the garden.

It's really funny. And they wonder why the "vibe" in the thread changes. It's because they're out here acting like the pettyweight champions of the world.

You were wrong about this team. You hoped it would go one way, and it went the other. Cut your losses and get over it. Stop harboring feelings because you didn't know what you were talking about.

In life, we're all in that position, multiple times. At least this was only about your favorite basketball team. Examine why you were wrong, and become a more informed fan. That's how I started before I was covering or working in the game.

Being wrong is more informative than being right. And it has the added bonus of being able to stop hoping things work out for melo here, and weirdly hating on porzingis - who is the best thing your team has going.


Can't make wine w/ sour grape, imo :sas2:
 

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Luckily our win last night didn't hurt us much because the Kings won as well. The magic play the nets twice and even though the Nets are no pushovers they should be able to win atleast one of the games. We still play Philly at the end of the season, we have to make sure our Starting lineup consists of plumlee, ndour, kuz, sasha and baker for atleast the final 5 games.

My biggest issue with last nights win was why are the veterans still playing 30+ minutes? Let the young boys get minutes, regardless of the outcome.

I'm definitely losing sleep over our outcome of the draft order and who we end up selecting.

EDIT- The Nets definitely is not an easy, win. I wouldn't be surprised if the Nets win both games
 
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Now who else wanna fukk with Hollywood Court?
AND YOU STILL ON MY dikk :ahh:.

N*ggas is mad at me cause I'm against the tank. F*ck ya n*ggas, ya'll don't like it put me on ignore.


Nah, I got my foot on your neck :mjgrin:


You're against tanking when the season has been over for 2 months, you on some petty baby momma shyt, it's a bad look and comes across extra feminine. :hubie:
 

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How bout Melo, Lee and Kuz?:jbhmm:


I feel like, there's a vet team that could use Lee, and would maybe be willing to part with a late or future first? Maybe?? But part of that is his reasonable contract. I don't think Kuz has any trade value, really.

I'm still upset this team didn't buy a late first, early second in the last draft. THESE are the kinds of things you do to rebuild.

Considering how late Skal, Ullis, Murray, McCaw, Brogdon and Cornelie went. :stopitslime:
 
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Nah, I got my foot on your neck :mjgrin:


You're against tanking when the season has been over for 2 months, you on some petty baby momma shyt, it's a bad look and comes across extra feminine. :hubie:

Yet you constantly follow me around quoting me, tagging me in any Melo related anti tanking threads or posts like some f*gat.

I don't agree with tanking & never will.
 
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