My NYC Black Folk......Gentrification

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I lived on 30th ave for 5 years was all time favorite spot in Astoria, tried moving back 4 years and the rent had sky high, to be honest the area had been well on its way to be gentrified as far back as 2001 because i know i was the only black living on 30th ave by the hospital, the project guys had a hike getting to their spots from the train but the area was cool, to this day i try get over there once a week to hit my panini spot and the thai spot on 30th. What High school closed, not my old school St. John's Prep?

nah LIC and Bryant, which is :mindblown: cause they're the only public high schools in the whole area :laugh: and they're pretty good too when you consider a bunch of the students are hopeless (it is what it is) from the nearby projects. and using that as an excuse to close schools down... nah, get better teachers instead of doing everything on the cheap like always
 

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Well....I knew someone born and raised in Tulsa who came and visited me here in NYC only for me and some Muslim cat to first tell her about Black Wall Street.

Born and raised in Tulsa and she didn't even KNOW IT EXISTED!!!!

:snoop:

I can't with Oklahoma man. Had dudes telling me they didn't hear of Malcolm X until the movie came out.

:wow: @ black folk not knowing who Malcolm X was until they saw the movie.
 

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This thread can be summed up with....
...If your money isnt right you're just a victim.


Black, White, Hispanic...it doesnt matter...If you have no money you are at the mercy of those that do.
You cant be mad at people moving in when the price is right.
I don't think anyone is arguing that fact, its more so the incredibly cutthroat nature that is NYC and many communities are losing their identity as a result of this shyt. I am sure there are PLENTY of examples of small businesses being pushed out similar to my bodega story a page back.
 

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To add a bit more to my previous post. I specifically highlighted 7-Eleven, Starbucks, and other big establishments because you have a large percentage of the population who won't even trust a small company such as Jose's Bodega because the name is not out there. I live in Lexington right now and what is it that we see all around? Starbucks, Chili's, McDonald's, Burger King, Papa John's, Walgreens, Walmart, Target, Meijer, Gamestop, and other big chains. WHY? I have had longtime residents here flat out tell me that they don't see how so many people in New York can just trust some person selling sandwiches, hot dogs, and other things in a corner...their whole mentality is still based on the fact that if I had an option to order a whole pizza from Papa John's over Liquid's Pizza Shop...they will always go to Papa Johns because its established and has a somewhat solid reputation. They won't even give me a chance unless I have to put it at a DEEP discount which I might not be in a position to do.

Go to the rougher spots? More of the local/family owned spots start showing up...they have no clue on what a community is. They look at a small establishment with a perception that if they don't have a big name in the city then its something that they are either not doing right or just not as good as the big chains. THAT is what made NYC unique and that is being lost...in fact I heard a couple of days ago people crying foul for 7-Eleven being opened somewhere near midtown...folks like @She Agree That I'm Looney just won't understand. Do you know why Bank of America sticks out like a sore thumb on 171st street over the Banco Popular that was there before? Do you think that the local Pharmacy which is owned by a local resident is going to be able to fork up the kinda cash that can be earned by a place like Walgreens?

Do you think people in Lexington would go to @NYC Rebel and his hair loss center for black men? Or would they go to a spot that is backed by Supercuts that claims to help with hair loss for black men? Think about that...that's what NYC is losing and it fukking sucks.

edit: Actually, I take some of that bolded back. We as minorities are a little more open to local spots even out here, but still have some people look at spots like that with the :mjpls: face on.
On the flipside of this when i lived in Astoria, on steinway street the Burger King Closed up, you got the Bareburger and the burger club which make way better burgers btw, No supercuts, the local spot by the train station still does good business and my go to allnight spot when i lived in that area was no 7-11, it was a smoke shop on the corner of 36 ave.
 
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I don't think anyone is arguing that fact, its more so the incredibly cutthroat nature that is NYC and many communities are losing their identity as a result of this shyt. I am sure there are PLENTY of examples of small businesses being pushed out similar to my bodega story a page back.
Its not just NYC...its like that everywhere breh.
Its life...and its always the way it has been.
There are white communities that have been gentrified w/ different types of white folks...and those people have the same complaints.
 

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Its not just NYC...its like that everywhere breh.
Its life...and its always the way it has been.
There are white communities that have been gentrified w/ different types of white folks...and those people have the same complaints.

shyt...the native Brooklyn white folk are saying the same things we're saying.
 

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Its not just NYC...its like that everywhere breh.
Its life...and its always the way it has been.
There are white communities that have been gentrified w/ different types of white folks...and those people have the same complaints.
no doubt my dude. It's just annoying when people make it seem like we are in any type of position to hold on to our communities back home. Some people somehow have it stuck in their head that if only Joe would have stopped buying those Jordans he could have bought the abandoned building up the block.
 

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no doubt my dude. It's just annoying when people make it seem like we are in any type of position to hold on to our communities back home. Some people somehow have it stuck in their head that if only Joe would have stopped buying those Jordans he could have bought the abandoned building up the block.
Well, In theory Joe could have watched his money and bought property on the cheap.
The problem is that people in poor areas dont have others around them to get them in that mindset.

Like I remember when The Bulls were building The United Center...they were going around the neighborhood offering up money to buy a lot of the buildings...people that owned them made out pretty well (a friend of the family said fuk it and stayed)...but if you were renting, or in the projects they tore down you were ass out.

IMO there is a lot of opportunity in the hood. W/ this new internet economy someone that stacks there money right can open up a store just like the Koreans have and make out even better because they know the people they are serving better than an immigrant (you can fill a store w/ the same stuff the Koreans sell via a site like Alibaba or going to a trade show like ASD).
The problem is that we (American black people) need to get into that immigrants mindset...delay gratification, not spend, and think about business.
We spend too much money for the average black person to not take advantage of it.
I just see way too many brothas wanting to live like a rap video than a "Millionaire Next Door" type.

thats probably why I have trouble feeling bad for people now...there is so much opportunity and free information out there that there are no excuses for not doing something w/ your life.
 

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Its not just NYC...its like that everywhere breh.
Its life...and its always the way it has been.
There are white communities that have been gentrified w/ different types of white folks...and those people have the same complaints.

shyt...the native Brooklyn white folk are saying the same things we're saying.

Carroll Gardens/CobbleHill/Boruem Hill and Bay Ridge/Bensonhusrt/Gravesend :ld:
 

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Well, In theory Joe could have watched his money and bought property on the cheap.
The problem is that people in poor areas dont have others around them to get them in that mindset.

Like I remember when The Bulls were building The United Center...they were going around the neighborhood offering up money to buy a lot of the buildings...people that owned them made out pretty well (a friend of the family said fuk it and stayed)...but if you were renting, or in the projects they tore down you were ass out.

IMO there is a lot of opportunity in the hood. W/ this new internet economy someone that stacks there money right can open up a store just like the Koreans have and make out even better because they know the people they are serving better than an immigrant (you can fill a store w/ the same stuff the Koreans sell via a site like Alibaba or going to a trade show like ASD).
The problem is that we (American black people) need to get into that immigrants mindset...delay gratification, not spend, and think about business.
We spend too much money for the average black person to not take advantage of it.
I just see way too many brothas wanting to live like a rap video than a "Millionaire Next Door" type.

thats probably why I have trouble feeling bad for people now...there is so much opportunity and free information out there that there are no excuses for not doing something w/ your life.
MOST people in this country have a problem with spending though, that was my point. I think many do have the mindset to try to set up their own business but the lack of education and their surroundings do play a major role. As far as your comment about immigrants is concerned...I get what you are saying, but black people in this country are just starting to get a hold of real power. This is something that takes generations to fully manifest and grow into something substantial. A whole lot of this country's wealth is passed on to families generation to generation, we are just not there yet as a whole and will probably start seeing some real results when most of us on here are :flabbynsick:
 

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MOST people in this country have a problem with spending though, that was my point. I think many do have the mindset to try to set up their own business but the lack of education and their surroundings do play a major role. As far as your comment about immigrants is concerned...I get what you are saying, but black people in this country are just starting to get a hold of real power. This is something that takes generations to fully manifest and grow into something substantial. A whole lot of this country's wealth is passed on to families generation to generation, we are just not there yet as a whole and will probably start seeing some real results when most of us on here are :flabbynsick:
No doubt...I fully agree w/ you.
Thats why I stay out of the "black people need to stop doing..." conversations because we really arent doing anything different than other folks.
When it was Italian, Irish, and Jewish folks in the "ghetto" they were the ones involved in the drug/Alcohol game shooting each other up...only difference is that its mostly blacks and Hispanics living in those areas.

All the nonsense you see w/ us will fade in time when more and more enter the middle class.
 

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Well, In theory Joe could have watched his money and bought property on the cheap.
The problem is that people in poor areas dont have others around them to get them in that mindset.

Like I remember when The Bulls were building The United Center...they were going around the neighborhood offering up money to buy a lot of the buildings...people that owned them made out pretty well (a friend of the family said fuk it and stayed)...but if you were renting, or in the projects they tore down you were ass out.

IMO there is a lot of opportunity in the hood. W/ this new internet economy someone that stacks there money right can open up a store just like the Koreans have and make out even better because they know the people they are serving better than an immigrant (you can fill a store w/ the same stuff the Koreans sell via a site like Alibaba or going to a trade show like ASD).
The problem is that we (American black people) need to get into that immigrants mindset...delay gratification, not spend, and think about business.
We spend too much money for the average black person to not take advantage of it.
I just see way too many brothas wanting to live like a rap video than a "Millionaire Next Door" type.

thats probably why I have trouble feeling bad for people now...there is so much opportunity and free information out there that there are no excuses for not doing something w/ your life.


that mentality of "living like a rapper" is played out. That heyday is over and it cost many black folk of gen x and y too many opportunities.
 

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If you have the means to buy anything in manhattan or close, now is the time to do it. If you rely on government handouts then everything that is "yours" can be taken. They can't make more of Manhattan and the closer you're the better.
 
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