My NYC Black Folk......Gentrification

[88m3]

Begruding white people for laying down roots in a place that you wouldnt is assinine

Upwardly mobile blacks like you abandoning the inner city are as responsible as anyone for how the identities of these hoods shifted

Someone needs to contribute $$, if upwardly mobile blacks are unwilling to stick around and revitalize an area (generally they arent)... dont be surprised if white people see the potential

You played a role in this like everyone else

you don't know what your talking about


looks at screen name... not going to bother

 

[QuintessentialBM]

Dog...I had peeps that went to Booker T out in Tulsa. The complexion of that school has completely changed.

I believe it.... I'm from Lawton/Ft. Sill so I really can't speak too much on Tulsa gentrification. The most powerful people in Lawton are the lazy ass politicians, doctors and lawyers and there's like only a handful of corporations and the US government out here. It's prime real estate for us to take over but the 17% of black people that live in our county(the largest percentage in the state) is lost.

 

[john goodman]

you don't know what your talking about


looks at screen name... not going to bother

Its a fact that upwaedly mobile blacks abandoned the inner city en masse and still are to this day

Is it not?

 

[AMcV'88]

kind of off topic, but is it really that brick in NY at the minute ?
speaking to my family earlier and they where going on about how cold it is or is it just this flu "epidemic" i been reading about that got people overreacting ?

i also seem to be in one of the few places in europe with zero snow.

 

[NYC Rebel]

I believe it.... I'm from Lawton/Ft. Sill so I really can't speak too much on Tulsa gentrification. The most powerful people in Lawton are the lazy ass politicians, doctors and lawyers and there's like only a handful of corporations and the US government out here. It's prime real estate for us to take over but the 17% of black people that live in our county(the largest percentage in the state) is lost.

Well....I knew someone born and raised in Tulsa who came and visited me here in NYC only for me and some Muslim cat to first tell her about Black Wall Street.

Born and raised in Tulsa and she didn't even KNOW IT EXISTED!!!!



I can't with Oklahoma man. Had dudes telling me they didn't hear of Malcolm X until the movie came out.

 

[TLR Is Mental Poison]

hahahaha. It figures you'd go there with the little "quote" thingy tearing down the people I'm talking about chilling.

Who said anything about chilling "regularly?" These dudes don't even do that "occasionally" and stay in their little enclaves. They're not embracing whose there. So what type of response do you expect?

Second are you speaking for yourself in saying these newbies faced rancor/distrust/animosity at places like 95 South or on behalf of others?

I don't know anyone in there last time I went and didn't find any discomfort...why would you?

I put it in quotes because it seems like the only metric of interaction you deem valid is seeing people hanging out on the corner together. I'm telling you people are interacting in other mediums, you ignore it lol.

I tell you new folks have tried to interact with the old folks and at times been met with animosity, you invalidate all anecdotes but your own. "I never had a problem, therefore there must be no problem". I want to meet the person or see the certificate that ordains you the spokesperson of all things BK

Not to mention all the crime + violence, often directed at the very folks you are looking to demonize

Prospect Heights, NY Patch

So to a degree keeping to one's self is in one's interest

The idea that someone would move into a neighborhood of high crime and any kind of level of resentment for them given a choice to live elsewhere is ridiculous. The folks you see as outsiders are in these neighborhoods because they have no choice.

The folks looking to transform neighborhoods are real estate entities. You are making shyt up to direct your anger at convenient targets.

 

[QuintessentialBM]

Well....I knew someone born and raised in Tulsa who came and visited me here in NYC only for me and some Muslim cat to first tell her about Black Wall Street.

Born and raised in Tulsa and she didn't even KNOW IT EXISTED!!!!



I can't with Oklahoma man. Had dudes telling me they didn't hear of Malcolm X until the movie came out.

That's how lost some of these Black Okies(Oklahomans) are.. SMDH...

 

[BillBanneker]

Well....I knew someone born and raised in Tulsa who came and visited me here in NYC only for me and some Muslim cat to first tell her about Black Wall Street.

Born and raised in Tulsa and she didn't even KNOW IT EXISTED!!!!



I can't with Oklahoma man. Had dudes telling me they didn't hear of Malcolm X until the movie came out.

I'm surprised, but not really (but still black wall street tho??). I didn't even know there was a race riot in my hometown until I was researching in college.

 

[Broke Wave]

Outside of sports @nycrebel is an excellent insightful poster

sent from Mooks pig pen

 

[QuintessentialBM]

I'm surprised, but not really (but still black wall street tho??). I didn't even know there was a race riot in my hometown until I was researching in college.

The American school system at work.... The US government does this on purpose. The schools are only allowed to talk about MLK and maybe the contributions of African Americans to society but they cannot talk about slavery or any of the race riots.... Trying to keep everyone dumb.


Like I said.. Folks is lost...

 

[NYC Rebel]

I put it in quotes because it seems like the only metric of interaction you deem valid is seeing people hanging out on the corner together. .

I made SURE not to say "the corner" because of the negative attributes I knew you'd reach for. Yet, you couldn't help yourself.

I'm sorry, but these newbies don't hang out with people around the way and stay to themselves. That doesn't solely comprise of hanging out on the corner, but hey....who didn't know you'd go "there"?

I tell you new folks have tried to interact with the old folks and at times been met with animosity, you invalidate all anecdotes but your own. "I never had a problem, therefore there must be no problem". I want to meet the person or see the certificate that ordains you the spokesperson of all things BK

I asked you who are you speaking for?

I gave an example of MY experience at 95 South, visiting there twice, being just as much a stranger to the people there as any of the people you're speaking about and met no animosity. So again, who are you speaking for and their experiences at 95 South? YOURSELF

Ask most people around the way and they'll tell you that these newbies keep it moving or walk in tiny little packs amongst themselves. I'm not patron saint of BK, but don't front like you spent your time in BK trying to get to know your neighbors beyond having your bike taken.

Not to mention all the crime + violence, often directed at the very folks you are looking to demonize

Prospect Heights, NY Patch

So to a degree keeping to one's self is in one's interest

Hold up. So it didn't count when it was happening at a worse degree when I lived there, now that a few are facing a minutia of that experience, they and they alone are the ones "often" victims of crimes out in "Prospect Heights?"



Underhill has been dangerous before a newbie stepped foot there. Just because these thugs have proven to be equal opportunity criminals, why is it that it didn't effect the communal spirit people had amongst each other when I was there compared to now? shyt...most of the victims in that link you sent are of the locals, not the newbies!!

You're making excuses for them staying to themselves.

The idea that someone would move into a neighborhood of high crime and any kind of level of resentment for them given a choice to live elsewhere is ridiculous. The folks you see as outsiders are in these neighborhoods because they have no choice.

The resentment is a byproduct of their isolation and keeping to themselves, period. I was with my wife at a sports bar in BK this past Sunday, and my boy Marlon happened to be there with a bunch of his new neighbors. The only ink spot amongst them. Why is it that its never the other way around where some newbie decides to chill with the locals? It's always us that expected to chill with them which we're good for but its NEVER the other way around. Oh yeah....all the locals reflect the type of niqqas that stole your bike. So that justifies keeping to themselves as you've advocated.

 

[69 others]

The American school system at work.... The US government does this on purpose. The schools are only allowed to talk about MLK and maybe the contributions of African Americans to society but they cannot talk about slavery or any of the race riots.... Trying to keep everyone dumb.


Like I said.. Folks is lost...

no offense but why can't parents or people in the community teach them about that. there is only so much a student can be thought about history in school, unless their majoring in history and even that is still scratching the surface, and of course they'll concentrate on the history of dominant group so it's up to us to do so. we got to stop crying about and depending on government and the school system and realize that it's only some much they can or is willing to do so it's up to the parents, family, or the community to fell that void and this goes for every subject not just history.

 

[Rekkapryde]

The American school system at work.... The US government does this on purpose. The schools are only allowed to talk about MLK and maybe the contributions of African Americans to society but they cannot talk about slavery or any of the race riots.... Trying to keep everyone dumb.


Like I said.. Folks is lost...

Even with MLK they purposely gloss over his anti government rhetoric. Everything is I HAVE A DREAM. MLK was a G, but they skip the shut that makes Cacs uncomfortable

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[NYC Rebel]

Oh the irony....

Word to my first born....I'm writing an article on a chick I grew up with around that way, who still lives on Sterling and Franklin, is an adjunct professor at John Jay and just published a book. And she wants me to meet her where?

Well you know me always Franklin avenue bound. We could do 95 south or any of the local restaurants along that strip (funny how times change) or peaches in bed stuy

95 South.

I hope I'm accepted there!!!

 

[QuintessentialBM]

no offense but why can't parents or people in the community teach them about that. there is only so much a student can be thought about history in school, unless their majoring in history and even that is still scratching the surface, and of course they'll concentrate on the history of dominant group so it's up to us to do so. we got to stop crying about and depending on government and the school system and realize that it's only some much they can or is willing to do so it's up to the parents, family, or the community to fell that void and this goes for every subject not just history.

The American education system doesn't do enough to ensure quality education period. That was the motivation for the insult

edit.... in response to the chick and the dude that didn't know Black Wall Street or Brotha Malcolm existed....