My NYC Black Folk......Gentrification

[Canada Goose]

Na breh east of Tompkins is fine. Matter fact in Bedstuy Lewis Ave is the it block (cacs call it SoLA) Stuyvesant ave is pretty revered too as far as bedstuy. Nostrand/Bedford is filthy and is struggle marketed as Clinton Hill (which is a lie).

Marcy PJs are fine, its just intimidating, and not good for property values. Lafayette PJs you hear action out of on the news every once in a while, so stay away.

As far as schools, public schools as shot outside of Brooklyn Tech.

Bronx Science is a another good public HS that's hard to get into. Midwood is good too and AFAIK you don't have to take a special test to get into it.

 

[Ego Noir]

Bronx Science is a another good public HS that's hard to get into. Midwood is good too and AFAIK you don't have to take a special test to get into it.

You right but I was talking about as far as the brownstone belt. If you talking NYC-wide Stuyvesant High is basically the Princeton of public schools. nationwide.

 

[BigMan]

http://www.npr.org/2014/01/22/264528139/long-a-dirty-word-gentrification-may-be-losing-its-stigma

interesting article

 

[newworldafro]

http://www.npr.org/2014/01/22/264528139/long-a-dirty-word-gentrification-may-be-losing-its-stigma

interesting article

H Street changed fast as hell..

 

[dora_da_destroyer]

This thread is like watching a slow death lol

had to quote this cuz it's happening all over. i can't fukkinf recognize oakland anymore, SF neither...SF was never super black, but they had tons of common folk, basically you gotta have someone making 100k in the household to even be over there. The three areas of the country i love...the bay, DC, and NYC...are changing so fast, but it really sucks out here since black people are leaving the area altogether. this shyt is so white out here now

 

[*L*E*G*A*C*Y*]

had to quote this cuz it's happening all over. i can't fukkinf recognize oakland anymore, SF neither...SF was never super black, but they had tons of common folk, basically you gotta have someone making 100k in the household to even be over there. The three areas of the country i love...the bay, DC, and NYC...are changing so fast, but it really sucks out here since black people are leaving the area altogether. this shyt is so white out here now

Sad.

These hipster transplants don't bring anything to these cities other than expensive coffee shops where they tool around on their macbooks all day pretending to be "bloggers" and "creatives", shytty stores that close down in less than a year, inflated rents, and sh!tty racist attitudes coming from culdasacia, USA into (formerly) predominantly black and brown hoods while they have their little playcation before they dip off to the next "hip" and "cool" city.

Where are black people gonna be at in this country? I love the cities and couldn't imagine living in the south or the suburbs again. And as an Nigerian/West Indian American I moved here simply because I figured more people+ more black people+more jobs= more opportunities. So to see these cities drained of their black populations is troubling indeed.

Anytime I see some yuppie bullshyt open up in the place of something that was actually authentic here it makes me mad and sad. SMH @ the Manhattanification of Brooklyn and the complete Disneylandification of NYC.

Hipster are poison. Why can't they all just f*ck off and move to Portland?

 

[Poitier]

Come down South and let's build it up and OWN it.

 

[Wild self]

Sad.

These hipster transplants don't bring anything to these cities other than expensive coffee shops where they tool around on their macbooks all day pretending to be "bloggers" and "creatives", shytty stores that close down in less than a year, inflated rents, and sh!tty racist attitudes coming from culdasacia, USA into (formerly) predominantly black and brown hoods while they have their little playcation before they dip off to the next "hip" and "cool" city.

Where are black people gonna be at in this country? I love the cities and couldn't imagine living in the south or the suburbs again. And as an Nigerian/West Indian American I moved here simply because I figured more people+ more black people+more jobs= more opportunities. So to see these cities drained of their black populations is troubling indeed.

Anytime I see some yuppie bullshyt open up in the place of something that was actually authentic here it makes me mad and sad. SMH @ the Manhattanification of Brooklyn and the complete Disneylandification of NYC.

Hipster are poison. Why can't they all just f*ck off and move to Portland?

More ownership would stop this from happening so often. I don't understand why that concept is so foreign to people that had families renting the same place for the last 4-5 generations. Don't you want to pass something down to your kids? Don't you want them not to worry about rent and living expenses when they grow up? My moms always said that people that never strive to make life easier for their kids (ownership), should never have kids in the first place.

 

[dora_da_destroyer]

More ownership would stop this from happening so often. I don't understand why that concept is so foreign to people that had families renting the same place for the last 4-5 generations. Don't you want to pass something down to your kids? Don't you want them not to worry about rent and living expenses when they grow up? My moms always said that people that never strive to make life easier for their kids (ownership), should never have kids in the first place.

it's not an ownership thing everywhere, what spurred it in oakland was a lot of grandparents bought homes in the 40's-60's, then had a slew of kids who fukked up, had kids outta wedlock, got strung out on drugs, didn't finish school, were underemployed, etc. as a kid, i had so many friends growing up with their cousins in their grandparents' houses cuz their parents weren't around. but once their grandparents got too old to take care of the house, or were living check to check off social security, you ended up with families with aint shyt kids/grandkids who couldn't keep these homes, thus they either had to sell or they were taken by the bank. in some cases, especially here in the Bay, when real estate started getting hot in the late 90's/early 00's, the kids who could keep the houses sold out quick as hell for poorly built 2500 sq ft tract homes/mcmansions, 30-50 miles outside the bay. you know bigger + cheaper must = better to some folks, now you have homes they sold for 300-400k in 04 that are worth 600-800k+ while they sit in these suburbs that have become hood as fukk, they have 1.5 hour commutes, no amenities, and where their houses are worth 15-50% less now than they were 10 years ago. i don't blame blacks because we, as a group, don't have a lot of generational wealth and knowledge about estate/wealth planning, but come the fukk on, we were so shortsighted out here.

i have white friends whose grandparents owned shytty homes in SF, but they kept them in the family, homes that sold for 100k in the 80's are now 1mil, you gotta think long-term. even if kids don't live there, that's pure cash flow from renting it. so like i said, a lot of it is about education and thinking long-term, not just renting vs buying

 

[Wild self]

it's not an ownership thing everywhere, what spurred it in oakland was a lot of grandparents bought homes in the 40's-60's, then had a slew of kids who fukked up, had kids outta wedlock, got strung out on drugs, didn't finish school, were underemployed, etc. as a kid, i had so many friends growing up with their cousins in their grandparents' houses cuz their parents weren't around. but once their grandparents got too old to take care of the house, or were living check to check off social security, you ended up with families with aint shyt kids/grandkids who couldn't keep these homes, thus they either had to sell or they were taken by the bank. in some cases, especially here in the Bay, when real estate started getting hot in the late 890's/early 00's, the kids who could keep the houses sold out quick as hell for poorly built 2500 sq ft tract homes/mcmansions, 30-50 miles outside the bay. you know bigger + cheaper must = better to some folks, now you have homes they sold for 300-400k in 04 that are worth 600-800k+ while they sit in these suburbs that have become hood as fukk, they have 1.5 hour commutes, no amenities, and where their houses are worth 15-50% less now than they were 10 years ago. i don't blame blacks because we, as a group, don't have a lot of generational wealth and knowledge about estate/wealth planning, but come the fukk on, we were so shortsighted out here.

i have white friends whose grandparents owned shytty homes in SF, but they kept them in the family, homes that sold for 100k in the 80's are now 1mil, you gotta think long-term. even if kids don't live there, that's pure cash flow from renting it. so like i said, a lot of it is about education and thinking long-term, not just renting vs buying

Exactly. In the major cities out in the west, midwest, and the east coast, we lost the war on gentrification. No matter how much protesting there is, it cannot be reversed. Better build our own shyt in the south and practice ownership and long term planing, like you said.

 

[King Crimson]

http://www.npr.org/2014/01/22/264528139/long-a-dirty-word-gentrification-may-be-losing-its-stigma

interesting article

Ehh.... The positives are few and far in between in my experience.

 

[No Homo]

This is going to far now

Junior’s selling flagship location in Brooklyn
The iconic cheesecake maker plans to temporarily leave the corner of Flatbush Avenue Extension and Dekalb Avenue but promised to return following a condo project.


Junior’s opened its original Brooklyn location in 1950 and has a been a fixture ever since.


This Brooklyn original will have its cheesecake and eat it, too.

Junior’s plans to sell its downtown home, clearing the way for a new condo building with a really sweet perk — easy access to top-flight desserts.

The iconic eatery is expected to move out of its 17,000-square-foot flagship following the sale, but believes it can negotiate a deal to return as a tenant and open a new restaurant on the ground floor.

The Rosen family, owner of the 64-year-old business, fended off suitors for the two-story building for years before finally capitulating to the sweet temptations of Brooklyn’s whipped-up real estate market.

It's safe to say that the building, which has been home to one of Brooklyn's signature establishments for nearly 65 years, is going to be replaced with a tower.

“The development market in the city is at a fevered pitch right now,” said Bob Knakal, chair of Massey Knakal, the brokerage firm marketing the property. “When you have a market like that, it makes people think.”

Junior’s opened in 1950 on the corner of Flatbush Ave. Extension and Dekalb Ave. and quickly settled in as must-visit for celebrities, politicians and blue-collar Brooklynites alike.

The restaurant parlayed its famed cheesecakes into a brand, opening locations in Times Square, Grand Central Terminal and at the MGM Grand at Foxwoods Resort Casino in Connecticut.

But it’s the original Brooklyn location that will always conjur the nostalgic images.

President Obama made the pilgrimage in October 2013 with then-candidate Bill de Blasio on a campaign-style visit, pressing palms between the restaurant’s vinyl booths and the red-topped bar.

The Rosens expect to open a second Brooklyn location and possibly another, temporary spot in the neighborhood during construction on the Flatbush corner, Knakal said.

The plan is to return to the original location and keep two Brooklyn restaurants, but Knakal acknowledged they’ll have to work out the homecoming with the developer.

RELATED: JUNIOR'S EMPLOYEES WANT THEIR FAIR SLICE

“The only thing for certain in life is death and taxes, right?” Knakal said. “It’s our objective to move back in.”



The Rosens didn’t respond to a request for comment.

Knakal declined to disclose an estimated value of the project, but said it’s probably worth three times as much as it was a decade ago.

The building could rise at least 20 stories, and with air rights it could rise to become one of the borough's tallest. The property offers great street access in a borough that now rivals Manhattan on developers’ wish-lists, he said.

“All around,” Knakal said, "it’s a world-class asset from a development viewpoint.”



Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/junior-selling-flagship-location-brooklyn-article-1.1620413#ixzz2tsFpg8kl

http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york...tion-brooklyn-article-1.1620413#ixzz2tsFpg8kl

 

[Wild self]

When Junior's is going out, I guess that is it

Damn shame that the lack of ownership cause all of this.

 

[No Homo]

When Junior's is going out, I guess that is it

Damn shame that the lack of ownership cause all of this.

Yep...Its funny how they say they want to negotiate a deal to come back but i think we know how thats going to end..

Coming back from the city and seeing the juniors sign up esp at night all lit up was like a real welcome back to brooklyn feel. Maybe they stay who knows but condos there.

 

[Wild self]

Yep...Its funny how they say they want to negotiate a deal to come back but i think we know how thats going to end..

Coming back from the city and seeing the juniors sign up esp at night all lit up was like a real welcome back to brooklyn feel. Maybe they stay who knows but condos there.

I mean, at this point, nothing is sacred. I mean NOTHING.