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My NYC Black Folk......Gentrification
- Thread starter Lewis Black
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Good read.
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That's what gets to me about it too. All of these people move here and displace the people that MADE the culture of New York to the point where there will be NO culture left.
big business does not care about culture
You have no control and ultimately no say if you are RENTING from owners.
Wages get you further in the South and people are more hospitable. Keep spitting fake game, though.
Yall are living in the past.
Wargames
One Of The Last Real Ones To Do It
NYC will become the new Singapore or Abu Dhabi. A place for the rich 1% to vacation and circle jerk. I'm not sure where the people who service and feed them will live but they probably have a plan in place. I just don't get how 99% of the world's population is just sitting by and letting people leech the last bit of wealth any of us have
We are going to die working minimum wage jobs. Retirement will be an old concept to people under 50.
The rumor is bloomberg wanted to move all the poor people into the bronx
I have a pretty crazy idea that will annoy so many rich people, but not sure I am ready to share that over here.
It will benefit the poor with only a 5 year investment (with not much money involved either). It will get so many people
it's almost laughable
It will benefit the poor with only a 5 year investment (with not much money involved either). It will get so many people
it's almost laughableYou have good ideas about investments.
Wages get you further in the South and people are more hospitable. Keep spitting fake game, though.
Yall are living in the past.
I'm not spitting fake game playboy. The people that can't afford NYC have already moved to the places you're talking about, and it will continue to happen. Some of those people have moved back, it is what it is.
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I get what you're saying but I don't at the same time. You present points (like the one quoted) but I'll have to apologize if I'm questioning them because it really comes off as gentrification cheerleading. If it's a breakdown in communication, call me out on it wherever and whenever you please. And likewise, if you have trouble clarifying certain parts of my posts, call me out on it.
I think you have to realize that not everyone wants to live in Detroit or the South or wherever (even if the opportunity to make a living is cheaper/more affordable) that's being recommended all over. There are people that are born and raised here and have had family for generations upon generations in this city and they can't even afford to live in their own hometown anymore. I understand that you say that that's how the world works (it's true in regards to business) and there's no point in being angry BUT THAT'S WHY PEOPLE ARE ANGRY.
When people are born and raised somewhere, they get used to places, culture, and a lifestyle and feel comfortable there. So, I understand why they would feel that way and want to fight for their rights as tenants and citizens.
I have traveled to many parts of the country, and I'm very sure many people in this thread have. Let's face it, there's a reason why people like New York. Aside from the glamour, glitz, and BS; it's diverse, it has culture, it has personality, it's liberal and open minded, and it has opportunity. Most places in America aren't/don't and it's difficult for some (especially the working/poor) to accrue the means to just move let alone get started in another city/town besides getting used to a completely different lifestyle.
If you can't see the problems with/behind gentrification or how gentrification in NYC in itself is an anachronism or allusion to the future of American cities, then I guess I can see why you can say there's no point in people being angry. I'm not from here originally, I'm assuming you are.
How would you feel if you were from a place, born and raised, and your family was from there and so and so on...and then one day someone told you that "you don't belong there anymore and it was time to leave?" Displaced by people who (more than likely) are coming from a place where the only "ethnics" they saw were on TV and in magazines. Who have ten times more money then you have had in your life. Whose only cognizant "vision" of your hometown is shaped by MTV and Gossip Girl. And obviously have shown that they don't care about you en masse or giving back to the community by working with people from the neighborhood (or only servicing/working with people like them).
I guess the better question is, how are you supposed to feel?
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Francis White
i been away to long, my feeling died.
Wrong i posted the plan was to build mega complexes for the middle class and poor, projects that would benefit contractors and rental companies both, there is a plan in place, moving people to one area would not work, overcrowding is not a problem the city wants. All the big box stores and super markets are not going to close up and move to the Bronx also. There is plenty of areas in Queens, BK and the Bronx that can be used.
Wargames
One Of The Last Real Ones To Do It
isnt that still kind of what they mean still when they say "more affordable housing" aka the plan is to build more projects and tenement housing then,
Francis White
i been away to long, my feeling died.
No projects are dead, they don't want those people here anymore, those days are over, they want housing for working people and those places will be decent to average because they want people to keep coming to NYC and living here, no crappy tenements anymore, every place will be livable, they want turnover in these places, You want people who just moved here to be in safe comfortable areas to establish themselves and move up, gone are the days of poor living for 30 years in a project and to be honest, if you live in the projects for more than 7 years your life is lost if you can't turn it around by then. I am in design, take a look of projected renovations of some areas, you will see no projects being developed at all. The real poor will have to get it together, i proposed this by having more trade schools and blacks and Spanish buying into franchise businesses to provide temp jobs while they are learning a trade, Running our business is great but no local deli or market or hardware store can match chain-store pricing, if we buy the franchise, we can still employee people in the areas. The most important thing is stop making excuses when we are not ready for these situations, education and job skills are the only way to survive now, this crying for the old days is done, we need to embrace the future to stand a chance. I am sorry but i can't understand how some guys don't get the war is over, being stagnant and not ready for the future is what killed us.
I think the problem is that you are taking my points and not understanding the point that I am trying to get across.
Most don't own, they rent. I understand your argument in where people want to "fight" for what they know, but the problem is that it doesn't work like that in this country. Many of the real estate firms in NYC are multi-billion dollar companies who have the ability to literally sit on properties for a decade+ if they view YOU as a tenant or tenants as not as profitable as the hipster that just graduated from NYU with a masters degree. The starbucks, the chipotle, and Bank of America all near Columbia Presbyterian hospital are all you need to see as to who they are trying to cater to. Drug Store? There is a Rite Aid for that, McDonald's, Wendy's and Popeye's are there as well...its what the general population of the United States knows...its what they are comfortable with. Your opinion doesn't matter anymore regardless of what they try to tell you.
Does it suck? Sure does, hell I considered "my block" dead almost 10 years ago when the change started to happen. No kids are outside anymore, none of my friends growing up live on the block today, the stores have changed, big business has taken over. New business? Good chance its a fortune 500 company.
Now I pose this question to you:
If I were to still live in Washington Heights, what are the chances that I am going to muster up 10 million dollars to buy one of the buildings on my block, keep up and try to influence the neighborhood? Even if I do grab 10 million, what are the chances that the other 50 or so in that vicinity will agree with my vision to preserve the culture? You are fighting a battle that you cannot possibly win. Why sit on your ass when the owners in the area don't care about your interest? You are not only wasting time, but living in an environment in where you are viewed as beneath the rest...my mom just went through it not too long ago.
My mom has been living in the same apartment for almost 30 years and the real estate company replaces her fridge with a used, banged up, white and non-efficient fridge while the new money tenant gets that new nice stainless steel fridge with all the top of the line features. Same goes for the gas stove with more burners, they also get better cabinets than my mom ever had in her 30 years living there. My mom and I don't view eye to eye with this issue and probably falls in line with you and most that have decided to stay in NYC.
I want control of what I want and be in the position to influence my neighborhood. I don't want to eventually be squeezed out or offered pennies when my culture doesn't fit the best economic model for the owners.
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New York is indeed a great place to live and I do miss my old "dead" block, but those days are over. I realized it when I was a teenager and can barely recognize what my neighborhood used to be. I fully expect all the small "shytty" chinese restaurants to be gone and P.F. Chang's opening up on 181st street soon lol
New York is indeed a great place to live and I do miss my old "dead" block, but those days are over. I realized it when I was a teenager and can barely recognize what my neighborhood used to be. I fully expect all the small "shytty" chinese restaurants to be gone and P.F. Chang's opening up on 181st street soon lol
People are lazy. Is the South underdeveloped? Yes. Buy low and sell high. Own your property, not rent. Build culture, not bask in past culture. Yall are living in a twilight zone, the past, and it's going to bite you in the azz soon enough.
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And it not even just the blacks, its the italian, irish, jews that made this city @dtownreppin214
look at yankee stadium for example.
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