My NYC Black Folk......Gentrification

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*F*U*N*E*R*A*L* said:
I get what you're saying but I don't at the same time. You present points (like the one quoted) but I'll have to apologize if I'm questioning them because it really comes off as gentrification cheerleading. If it's a breakdown in communication, call me out on it wherever and whenever you please. And likewise, if you have trouble clarifying certain parts of my posts, call me out on it.

I think you have to realize that not everyone wants to live in Detroit or the South or wherever (even if the opportunity to make a living is cheaper/more affordable) that's being recommended all over. There are people that are born and raised here and have had family for generations upon generations in this city and they can't even afford to live in their own hometown anymore. I understand that you say that that's how the world works (it's true in regards to business) and there's no point in being angry BUT THAT'S WHY PEOPLE ARE ANGRY.

When people are born and raised somewhere, they get used to places, culture, and a lifestyle and feel comfortable there. So, I understand why they would feel that way and want to fight for their rights as tenants and citizens.

I have traveled to many parts of the country, and I'm very sure many people in this thread have. Let's face it, there's a reason why people like New York. Aside from the glamour, glitz, and BS; it's diverse, it has culture, it has personality, it's liberal and open minded, and it has opportunity. Most places in America aren't/don't and it's difficult for some (especially the working/poor) to accrue the means to just move let alone get started in another city/town besides getting used to a completely different lifestyle.

If you can't see the problems with/behind gentrification or how gentrification in NYC in itself is an anachronism or allusion to the future of American cities, then I guess I can see why you can say there's no point in people being angry. I'm not from here originally, I'm assuming you are.

How would you feel if you were from a place, born and raised, and your family was from there and so and so on...and then one day someone told you that "you don't belong there anymore and it was time to leave?" Displaced by people who (more than likely) are coming from a place where the only "ethnics" they saw were on TV and in magazines. Who have ten times more money then you have had in your life. Whose only cognizant "vision" of your hometown is shaped by MTV and Gossip Girl. And obviously have shown that they don't care about you en masse or giving back to the community by working with people from the neighborhood (or only servicing/working with people like them).

I guess the better question is, how are you supposed to feel?
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Admittedly a lot of blacks came to NYC from the south(my parents didn't) in fact the majority until the end of world war II. But they left the south for a reason. You obviously understand why some people are exactly popping to go back @Liquid @yoyoyo1 @88m3
 
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West Indians, Jamaicans, Ricans, Dominican, Chinese, Koreans, etc
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Dominicans are moving up to Lawrence, MA...near Lowell

Not a great place, but that's been a new hotspot for the past 5-10 years
 
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If rich white folk can't show you how much they don't want you there, these next few hurricane seasons will do the job....
 
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NYC will become D.C. part II A big city full of transplants with no culture. If you don't own or you have no chance of owning in the near future, I would suggest you bounce. Maybe hit up a northeastern city that hasn't been gentrified yet if the south ain't for you, but if ownership is not in the cards then you are wasting time and money. I know too many Black college educated folks in NYC who make between 60-100k who don't own anything and when you ask them if they would ever leave they look at you as if you are nuts. I like NYC but I don't love it, not if someone else constantly has the power to control the variables of my housing conditions. Black folks in NYC will consist of mainly college educated transplants who were born and raised somewhere else (like DC) Black folks who worked for the government will see their power decreased (like DC) and have to move out as financial pressures increase.
 
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NYC will become D.C. part II A big city full of transplants with no culture. If you don't own or you have no chance of owning in the near future, I would suggest you bounce. Maybe hit up a northeastern city that hasn't been gentrified yet if the south ain't for you, but if ownership is not in the cards then you are wasting time and money. I know too many Black college educated folks in NYC who make between 60-100k who don't own anything and when you ask them if they would ever leave they look at you as if you are nuts. I like NYC but I don't love it, not if someone else constantly has the power to control the variables of my housing conditions. Black folks in NYC will consist of mainly college educated transplants who were born and raised somewhere else (like DC) Black folks who worked for the government will see their power decreased (like DC) and have to move out as financial pressures increase.
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ogc163 said:
NYC will become D.C. part II A big city full of transplants with no culture. If you don't own or you have no chance of owning in the near future, I would suggest you bounce. Maybe hit up a northeastern city that hasn't been gentrified yet if the south ain't for you, but if ownership is not in the cards then you are wasting time and money. I know too many Black college educated folks in NYC who make between 60-100k who don't own anything and when you ask them if they would ever leave they look at you as if you are nuts. I like NYC but I don't love it, not if someone else constantly has the power to control the variables of my housing conditions. Black folks in NYC will consist of mainly college educated transplants who were born and raised somewhere else (like DC) Black folks who worked for the government will see their power decreased (like DC) and have to move out as financial pressures increase.
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People moving to Pennsylvania, Connecticut, and New Jersey is nothing new :manny:
 
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It's better to jump and pick your landing spot then get pushed and splatter
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I'll be fine. My parents own their house in Brooklyn and they have a house in Florida. I've been looking for a house in BK for myself but the prices are a bit much. I could probably get one in Queens but I would prefer to live in BK.
 
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