My NYC Black Folk......Gentrification

[*L*E*G*A*C*Y*]

the south is cool but people got to realize it aint for everybody
i know a bunch of people who moved down south and ended up coming back or moving elsewhere cause things dried up quick.....thats why im weary about of moving out there

but living in the DMV i do notice a lot more NY/NJ transplants.......

Baltimore is 3 hours away for NY/NJ. DC is 5. Yo...the DMV has the advantage of all of that government money going into there. I've been to DC, it's nice. I've been to Baltimore too and it's slowly but surely getting gentrified.

The hipsters/transplants in Baltimore are so much different from the hipsters here in NY. I don't know if it's because of the stereotypes about Baltimore that have been broadcasted to the world en masse because of the wire...or because of the kind of rough nature of that city...but they really keep to themselves out there and stay in their areas. It's making that city kind of segregated in a way...but it's self-segregation. Here in NY, the transplants will live in the working class neighborhoods (cause they're cheaper than the other neighborhoods) go to the bodegas, check out the ethnic food places, and try to sample the culture of the city. Baltimore...no. Not at all.

 

[Francis White]

Black excellence


What school did you go to?

Parsons.

 

[Francis White]

That doesn't make sense. Unless they track every thing you do, how could they possible know who is who. Why would they tear down all the projects and build new ones? That sounds like the dumbest idea I have ever heard. I know in the LES they been kicking out all the poor people and turning them into "co-opts" but the only people in them are Rich transplants and Jews.

Tear them down and improve them would be the statement, remember when the politicians spent a few days there earlier this year to talk about horrible living conditions there and speak about how unsafe they are, well that is how it starts. To be honest it is very easy to get this going, there is a housing shortage and there is a job shortage, with the right candidate in office, there could be no end to what he would give up to these developers. Look at Bloomberg and the whole Barcleys center and look at the every area that he let developers take over, You don't think another mayor could do the same but push a low income and medium income housing mandate.?

 

[Poitier]

Parsons.

Ahhh I use to smash so many of those insecure broads....

New School and NYU's female population is god's gift to men in downtown NYC

 

[Francis White]

Ahhh I use to smash so many of those insecure broads....

New School and NYU's female population is god's gift to men in downtown NYC

Yes they have so many doubts about everything they do, Also FIT is a feast for them also. If any guy can't pull one of them, then you need help in life.

 

[Poitier]

Tear them down and improve them would be the statement, remember when the politicians spent a few days there earlier this year to talk about horrible living conditions there and speak about how unsafe they are, well that is how it starts. To be honest it is very easy to get this going, there is a housing shortage and there is a job shortage, with the right candidate in office, there could be no end to what he would give up to these developers. Look at Bloomberg and the whole Barcleys center and look at the every area that he let developers take over, You don't think another mayor could do the same but push a low income and medium income housing mandate.?

I understand what you're saying but they will still have an issue with lower level jobs being sufficiently filled. NYC is a city of 22 million. Building "poor complexes" would have to take up significant space and I just doubt they can vet who is and isn't poor enough to live there.

 

[*L*E*G*A*C*Y*]

great points in this post. even if you own your shyt whenever the goverment wants they can take it through eminent domain. the most recent example of this was all around atlantic/pacific ave and surrounding buildings by the barclays center. even cacs with money were some held out longer to get bigger paychecks but they knew it was wrap. once the govt uses that its nothing you can do they just debo your shyt

That's the nature of gentrification though.

• Lowered property values due to crime, urban decay, and poverty.
• A gentry class slowly but surely starts trickling in due to the option of lower rents.
• Somewhere around this time, big business/money/government starts seizing property through eminent domain laws
• As more members of a gentry class come in, the rents start to increase as the neighborhood becomes "hip, trendy, cool, etc." (it always starts with artists/gays etc...then the hipsters come in)
  
• As the rents go up, the working class/poor/lower class residents have no choice but to move as their neighborhoods become too expensive to live in
• The property that is seized is "reformatted" to fit the "needs" of the new neighborhood (luxury condos and yuppie BS)
• The gentry class that moved in years ago gets gentrified itself (this already happened to the first-third gen of Williamsburg gentrifiers who settled in in the late 90s, early 00s)

 

[Wild self]

So true. All of these hipsters slumming it will be getting the axe too. Sure, they have loot to enter here and make somewhat of a living, but like everyone else in this city, they don't own property and will be priced out like everyone else. Making way for the yuppies and disgustingly rich people who will be able to live here.

and when it's all said and done, there wont be shyt left, sadly.
these kids/people coming here from lord knows where are just little "upscale" lab rats who have merely been sent to test the waters in areas that are being transformed from the hood to what some developers/city planners eventually want it to be.

bottom line is that if you dont own your land (and who really "owns" land) then youre at the mercy of any entity that can decide at the drop of a hat that it's time for change. seeing/reading about what has happened to much of the public housing in Chicago shows me that NY isnt immune to our own projects getting torn down at some point. These buildings sit on VERY large parcels of valuable land and i'm sure developers salivate at just the thought of taking some of these projects off of the city's hands

and while some of "us" might own some stuff here and there, lets be real, the huge bulk of blacks in NY rent or live in public housing and the youth seem like they just dont "get it" when it comes to how shyt is changing and will make it harder for them to even survive with some dignity moving ahead[/quote]

Yup in another 10 years, NY will look like a European city.

 

[ogc163]

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/26/fashion/the-williamsburg-divide.html?smid=tw-share&_r=1&

 

[ogc163]

http://gothamist.com/2013/09/23/ask_a_native_new_yorker_how_guilty.php

 

[ogc163]

This shyt is hard. Like stupidly insanely hard. I am St. Patrick's-Day-Beer-Vomit-Green with jealousy when I see those beautifully renovated apartments along Irving or Knickerbocker Avenue. I want to cut those bytches shopping at Mary Meyer with their ridiculously expensive, cute vintage outfits. I want to scream when I see a studio space I could never afford to start a small business. I even seriously considered selling some weed to build a little nest egg to start a little business... how fukking ghetto is that?

 

[Michael's Black Son]

This shyt is hard. Like stupidly insanely hard. I am St. Patrick's-Day-Beer-Vomit-Green with jealousy when I see those beautifully renovated apartments along Irving or Knickerbocker Avenue. I want to cut those bytches shopping at Mary Meyer with their ridiculously expensive, cute vintage outfits. I want to scream when I see a studio space I could never afford to start a small business. I even seriously considered selling some weed to build a little nest egg to start a little business... how fukking ghetto is that?

her reply was good and a real reflection of what native NYers are dealing with. shyt, right now I'm looking for a crib at the process has been nightmarish at times. WIth the income requirements telling you that you can only get a crib in a certain price range, to the shytty ass brokers who dont deserve a fukking dime, to the bullshyt ass landlords trying to suddenly be real estate tyc00ns and suck in some of that gentrification $$$.

 

[*L*E*G*A*C*Y*]

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/26/fashion/the-williamsburg-divide.html?smid=tw-share&_r=1&

Williamsburg is the most got damn embarssing neighborhood in NYC. I honestly try avoiding there. I'd rather hangout in Flatbush then Williamsburg.

 

[SpacelySprockets]

Hopefully this is the beginning of gentrifying Newark NJ.. shytty ass place

http://www.complex.com/city-guide/2...+10+2013&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social

 

[the next guy]

A lot of people don't want to live in the south.

We still have a chance brehs. Come down south brehs. Its so easy. Let those idiots up north struggle with all those crippling economic forces. Its a fool's game. You can come down south and be a homeowner on a $40K/yr income.

Trayvon