We'll just wait it out, but you are in a prized position. Not many can say that they own and thus most of this thread is not relevant to you.
My NYC Black Folk......Gentrification
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We'll just wait it out, but you are in a prized position. Not many can say that they own and thus most of this thread is not relevant to you.
yeah after reading that, what is the point of mson being in here? Nothing we are talking about really pertains to him
Francis White
i been away to long, my feeling died.
Good points, but here where is the problem, the college educated and the non college educated can force the pay rate to go up, unless your job can be fully automated people can force pay to increase with cost of living, i used to work in retail and when i did they had less than 10% of whites working there, when the owner got cheap with them , they just quit and the rest demanded more money and got it. The Spanish did this also because lets face it, white guys are not going to work at mobile phone stores or the Gap or Macys as a career unless the pay is there. With rent raising these places are not going to survive unless they go fully automated or pay goes up to keep up with the cost of living. Think of how many retail stores in the city, think of how many places have security guards and doormen and maintenance personnel working, if rent raises to high and they move who is going do those jobs white guys??? Hell no unless that pay increased. The commute of having people live in the BX like that other poster said would be crazy, so its either a major building project for mid level income and lower income housing or robots do those jobs.
Even if the housing is affordable, everything else that it cost to live won't be.
breh your family owns, you are already past a hurdle MANY won't reachI can't tell if you're being sarcastic
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still past a hurdle many won't reachMy parents own
*L*E*G*A*C*Y*
Done.
I'll smoke one to this and the Domino factory in Williamsburg that's going to be torn down to create yet another boring luxury condo building.
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The problem is that this is all just black/urban graffiti.
If they just got Banksy to stencil some sort of pedestrian highscool level anti corporation stuff all over it, the entire thing would be made into a museum.
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The problem is that this is all just black/urban graffiti.
If they just got Banksy to stencil some sort of pedestrian highscool level anti corporation stuff all over it, the entire thing would be made into a museum.
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Apollo Kid
Veteran
Speaking of Banksy,"
The problem is that this is all just black/urban graffiti.
If they just got Banksy to stencil some sort of pedestrian highscool level anti corporation stuff all over it, the entire thing would be made into a museum.
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to East New York
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Yeah, that's one of the problems I have with Lexington, KY
Lexington's culture was always surrounding the horse farms, UK Basketball/Football, and old country tradition...that's slowly evaporating though because of transplants (such as myself) that have come from all over the country.
If you want authentic food you are going to find maybe 1 or 2 spots that offer it. There is ONE west African food joint here and is well known in the city. Other than that? There is no Dominican spot that I know of, but at least there is a "Latin Festival" downtown every year and that's cool. This is going to be a very interesting place because its unknown what the future holds. Either the Hispanics are going to take a larger portion of the city or the established will continue to try to hold on to their horse farms and rich tradition. The only "Pocket" I know of is a Mexican/Hispanic area in Versailles Road/Alexandria which is viewed as undesirable for the old and established...I think its great. Many of us "Blacks" are owning property out there, but its more hispanic really. I really hope that black people will start focusing on true power in this country because the "Mexicans" are going after it...they are going after the opportunity faster
http://www.city-data.com/zips/40504.html
There is no way "Hispanic" should have a larger piece of the pie in 40504.
It's actually pretty cool to watch it all unfold. I personally hope for the minorities to rise a bit more here as Lexington is a very nice place and it is an opportunity for us to gain ownership in a state that is considered "Southern", but geographically is more north...it also gets cold as shyt here. Sometimes it's colder here than it is in NYC.
[quote"Liquid, post: 5744206, member: 9"]I think the problem is that you are taking my points and not understanding the point that I am trying to get across.
Most don't own, they rent. I understand your argument in where people want to "fight" for what they know, but the problem is that it doesn't work like that in this country. Many of the real estate firms in NYC are multi-billion dollar companies who have the ability to literally sit on properties for a decade+ if they view YOU as a tenant or tenants as not as profitable as the hipster that just graduated from NYU with a masters degree. The starbucks, the chipotle, and Bank of America all near Columbia Presbyterian hospital are all you need to see as to who they are trying to cater to. Drug Store? There is a Rite Aid for that, McDonald's, Wendy's and Popeye's are there as well...its what the general population of the United States knows...its what they are comfortable with. Your opinion doesn't matter anymore regardless of what they try to tell you.
Does it suck? Sure does, hell I considered "my block" dead almost 10 years ago when the change started to happen. No kids are outside anymore, none of my friends growing up live on the block today, the stores have changed, big business has taken over. New business? Good chance its a fortune 500 company.
Now I pose this question to you:
If I were to still live in Washington Heights, what are the chances that I am going to muster up 10 million dollars to buy one of the buildings on my block, keep up and try to influence the neighborhood? Even if I do grab 10 million, what are the chances that the other 50 or so in that vicinity will agree with my vision to preserve the culture? You are fighting a battle that you cannot possibly win. Why sit on your ass when the owners in the area don't care about your interest? You are not only wasting time, but living in an environment in where you are viewed as beneath the rest...my mom just went through it not too long ago.
My mom has been living in the same apartment for almost 30 years and the real estate company replaces her fridge with a used, banged up, white and non-efficient fridge while the new money tenant gets that new nice stainless steel fridge with all the top of the line features. Same goes for the gas stove with more burners, they also get better cabinets than my mom ever had in her 30 years living there. My mom and I don't view eye to eye with this issue and probably falls in line with you and most that have decided to stay in NYC.
I want control of what I want and be in the position to influence my neighborhood. I don't want to eventually be squeezed out or offered pennies when my culture doesn't fit the best economic model for the owners.[/quote]
NY will turn to a European city. Ownership is to hard to obtain.
The probl
Most don't own, they rent. I understand your argument in where people want to "fight" for what they know, but the problem is that it doesn't work like that in this country. Many of the real estate firms in NYC are multi-billion dollar companies who have the ability to literally sit on properties for a decade+ if they view YOU as a tenant or tenants as not as profitable as the hipster that just graduated from NYU with a masters degree. The starbucks, the chipotle, and Bank of America all near Columbia Presbyterian hospital are all you need to see as to who they are trying to cater to. Drug Store? There is a Rite Aid for that, McDonald's, Wendy's and Popeye's are there as well...its what the general population of the United States knows...its what they are comfortable with. Your opinion doesn't matter anymore regardless of what they try to tell you.
Does it suck? Sure does, hell I considered "my block" dead almost 10 years ago when the change started to happen. No kids are outside anymore, none of my friends growing up live on the block today, the stores have changed, big business has taken over. New business? Good chance its a fortune 500 company.
Now I pose this question to you:
If I were to still live in Washington Heights, what are the chances that I am going to muster up 10 million dollars to buy one of the buildings on my block, keep up and try to influence the neighborhood? Even if I do grab 10 million, what are the chances that the other 50 or so in that vicinity will agree with my vision to preserve the culture? You are fighting a battle that you cannot possibly win. Why sit on your ass when the owners in the area don't care about your interest? You are not only wasting time, but living in an environment in where you are viewed as beneath the rest...my mom just went through it not too long ago.
My mom has been living in the same apartment for almost 30 years and the real estate company replaces her fridge with a used, banged up, white and non-efficient fridge while the new money tenant gets that new nice stainless steel fridge with all the top of the line features. Same goes for the gas stove with more burners, they also get better cabinets than my mom ever had in her 30 years living there. My mom and I don't view eye to eye with this issue and probably falls in line with you and most that have decided to stay in NYC.
I want control of what I want and be in the position to influence my neighborhood. I don't want to eventually be squeezed out or offered pennies when my culture doesn't fit the best economic model for the owners.[/quote]
NY will turn to a European city. Ownership is to hard to obtain.
The probl
People ego will be the end of them. They want NY to go backwards, but refuse to capitalize wealth building opportunities to help their families for future generations.
But paying rent and living like a pauper is all worth it in NY, right?
