The vibe magazine stuff wasn't even when he was going at them hard yet. If he heard something that was a misunderstanding big should've also been compelled to reach out to the guy and clarify the situation. He could have handled that aspect of it better. In that instance I'd feel funny bout that as well.
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The vibe magazine stuff wasn't even when he was going at them hard yet. If he heard something that was a misunderstanding big should've also been compelled to reach out to the guy and clarify the situation. He could have handled that aspect of it better. In that instance I'd feel funny bout that as well.
Knicksman20
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Shawn Pen Suggests Biggie Got Robbed Because 2Pac Spoke To Haitian Jack (AUDIO)
"Pac had already started accusing Biggie – whoever did it, you know it wasn’t him. Biggie wasn’t that guy. That just wasn’t him. So, me and Big are talking, and Big is like, “I can’t believe this dude would accuse me of doing that. Me and this n***a was super f**king cool. He knows that’s not my style.”
When Pac first started hanging out with Jack and everybody, Biggie or somebody in his camp had said something to him about it. Pac went back and told Jack. And Biggie got robbed.
The same s**t that happen in the movie [Notorious], whether it was Big or whomever, they told Pac, “Be careful.” He didn’t really have nothing to worry about… Pac went back and told [Jack], and that’s when they didn’t f**k with Big no more."
seemorecizzy
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pac gave biggie and them the middle finger while on the stretcher
biggie still went to the hospital to check on him and give back his burner ( again, something that probably pissed henchmen off)
they were not best friends, but he cared for dude until he started acting a fool
There's evidence to suggest he still cared for him. And the middle finger on the stretcher could have been towards the media as he often would do. The fact that you mentioned Big was willing to go to the hospital after anyway shows he ain't have no hard feelings regarding that. If someone I came up with who mentored me got shot and this dude goes to jail and is insinuating shyt about me I would've tried to reach out to dude. Its perfectly fine to feel like pac overstepped his boundaries towards the end of that beef and also feel that biggie acted negligent and seemingly uninterested in at least seeing how dude was holding up. Pac was shot in Nov of 94, was sentenced in Feb of 95, and the vib magazine article came out in March of 95. There was a significant amount of time for Big reach out to him and air out any misunderstandings.
Erratic415
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Biggie death still has me
What was the deal with NOI that night?
If Puff still owed Keefe money. Why would the SSCC offer to be Puff and Biggies protection that night?
The Biggie murder is more of a mystery.
It's pretty obvious that Orlando Anderson and his boys killed Pac, that was clear for a long time. The big question to me is if Puff and Big were involved. Keefe D said Biggie may have not known, but then claimed Faith knew about it. Hard to believe Faith knew and Big didn't.
But the Biggie murder? Kading does a good job of shutting down Poole's theories. It seems the most believable, but I still wouldn't be shocked if Kading was wrong and it turned out crooked LAPD officers were involved.
The authorities not continuing to pursue the Pac case and "letting sleeping dogs lie" had me skeptical about Puff being involved. I understand if it was just Orlando Anderson and the Southside Crips involved, and not bothering to investigate further especially since most of the people are dead or locked up. But Puff? I imagine the FBI would get a hard-on on the possibility of building a murder case against a hip-hop producer the stature of Diddy
Uh by reaching out to ya mans and letting him know you won't involved considering by most accounts they were good friends ? Biggie saw what happened to Pac and stretch and decided self preservation was the better choice and decided to just get his money. They were all kids hanging around real gangsters.
how exactly do you handle that situation ???
the original interview was on some 'they knew shyt'is
the actual version was heavily edited by Vibe, in which made pac mad at Kevin Powell & Vibe mag
it was so bad legendary Fab Five Freddy was brought in to resolve the conflict
it's no reason to reach out, when your man absolutely positively knows you had nothing to do with it
breh
your dates are correct but the references are off - i'm telling it was roughly a window of a month
- the quad studio incident happen on nov 30 1994
- biggie went to visit pac but pac left the hospital in the morning on nov 31 1994
- pac was found guilty of sexual abuse & immediately sent to rikers to await sentencing dec1 1994
- the vibe kevin powell interview took place in rikers on jan 15 1995
brehhhhhhhhhhhh........
why u making this out to look like biggie had a mass amount of time to see him
I just finished watching the documentary.
breh
your dates are correct but the references are off - i'm telling it was roughly a window of a month
- the quad studio incident happen on nov 30 1994
- biggie went to visit pac but pac left the hospital in the morning on nov 31 1994
- pac was found guilty of sexual abuse & immediately sent to rikers to await sentencing dec1 1994
- the vibe kevin powell interview took place in rikers on jan 15 1995
brehhhhhhhhhhhh........
why u making this out to look like biggie had a mass amount of time to see him
breh
your dates are correct but the references are off - i'm telling it was roughly a window of a month
- the quad studio incident happen on nov 30 1994
- biggie went to visit pac but pac left the hospital in the morning on nov 31 1994
- pac was found guilty of sexual abuse & immediately sent to rikers to await sentencing dec1 1994
- the vibe kevin powell interview took place in rikers on jan 15 1995
brehhhhhhhhhhhh........
why u making this out to look like biggie had a mass amount of time to see him
Dude even if it was within a window of a month if your man gets shot in the studio and gets sentenced upstate you would think you would go out of your way to see him. Even if the original interview was more scathing the contents of the magazine didn't even come out until March. It just seems dude could have did more to reach out to him and I can't blame pac for feeling a certain way about that given how pac looked out for big. I'm just putting myself in my position and big shoulda been upfront with him and taken care of business early. While pac had accused puff and big of betrayal in the vibe interview what really pissed him off was when biggie and puff gave their side of the story. If big had visited dude early and explained that "yo you trippin about thinking I was involved in that" or something to that effect their would have been a possibility of an understanding.
Eastside Get The Money
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These nikkas been arguing for a whole page 
I'll tell you how I see it. I believe Biggie didn't know he was gonna get shot, I believe Puff did last minute. But if they would have told Pac exactly what went down they know his mouth would have put word all over. And they literally saw with their own eyes how Henchmen and them get down. As much as I hate Puffy I don't blame him for not telling Pac right away. I do think they should have had some sit down in prison though.
And Who Shot ya was a horrible idea. I don't care what anyone says there's 5 shots towards the end of that track
Just rewind this bad boys behind this
I'll tell you how I see it. I believe Biggie didn't know he was gonna get shot, I believe Puff did last minute. But if they would have told Pac exactly what went down they know his mouth would have put word all over. And they literally saw with their own eyes how Henchmen and them get down. As much as I hate Puffy I don't blame him for not telling Pac right away. I do think they should have had some sit down in prison though.
And Who Shot ya was a horrible idea. I don't care what anyone says there's 5 shots towards the end of that track
Just rewind this bad boys behind this
If your "man" get shot up and sent to jail on some BS (which I'm sure Pac told Big it was) you don't go support him in a month's time. The nikka that let you rock at his show to garner you some fans, he was gonna put you down with the crew and you don't even let him know that you got him.
A month is 30 muthafukkin days 31 in some months, I knew Big was doing all you said but how long would a visit to your man take 3-4 hours tops?Big looking funny in the light to me.
THIS
@kingofnyc is looking funny in the light as well, if he truly believes what hes saying. I could never be cool with someone like that.
you dudes have a false equivalency of there relationship - that was his (man in the industry)
its a major difference between your industry peoples & your everyday peoples
breh - going to visit someone in rikers is an all day trip
and biggie had deadlines & a ton of shyt going on at the time. if shyt didnt go left he would've eventually visited him
but again, i still dont understand why yall not giving biggie any credit for going to the hospital the very next day - yall perception is like biggie didnt give a fukk about pac
not to make light of the situation, but that all-day trip turned out to be more important than whatever biggie had going on, don't you think?
I mean dammit, at least write a letter.
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breh
your dates are correct but the references are off - i'm telling it was roughly a window of a month
- the quad studio incident happen on nov 30 1994
- biggie went to visit pac but pac left the hospital in the morning on nov 31 1994
brehhhhhhhhhhhh........
why u making this out to look like biggie had a mass amount of time to see him
edit - my bad..... it's only 30 days in the month of november
BUT to clarify - the whole quad studio shyt happen just after midnight of the 29th into the early morning of nov 30th
so, technically biggie went to see him at the hospital the same day which happen to be later on in mid dayish
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