Murder is the leading cause of death for Black men under 44

[Wildhundreds]

The weird reflex people have to ignore outside factors and put this solely on black people always boggles the mind.

When the outside factors are the ones designed to kill you, then you have to look within yourself.

 

[Still Benefited]

Why are you trying to shut down the debate around this issue by resorting to name calling and going the WS stereotypes or c00n argument. Why is it so hard to believe that people who really are discussing this are doing it in good faith and genuinely concerned.

44% of murder victims in America are Black which is a gross over representation given the Black proportion of the US population (13%) that is alarming. Black people are OVER REPRESENTED in these stats that's how you do a viable comparison. Maybe the reason there is a thread like this "everyday" as you claim is because it is an alarming enough issue to warrant everyday discussion. This site has plenty of threads addressing substantive and non substantive things (sports, music, self improvement, history, tech, jbo, cars, fitness etc...) so why you coming in here flame throwing WS c00n this and that.

We are not like other races and cant be held to the same standard. What other race is programmed to be constantly fearful of their own race. We are programmed this way through the news,through statistics,obviously through the music. And of course through personal experience.


So essentially how do you create an environment where black boys/men arent afraid of other black boys/men?Its an environment where you might not want to kill somebody. But feel you have to out of fear they might come back to kill you.

So the answer is simple. If you are raising a black boy whos in fear of his life,move somewhere where he isnt. Maybe Idaho is nice this time of year. And if you are a black man afraid for your life,save your money and leave.

Also we are prideful and passionate,moreso than certain other races. Nothing harmful about that unless you live in an environment with guns. And where their are no wise group of men/boys in every circle. In my future community fighting will be fine when youve been disrespected. Fist are a great means of correcting behavior. But the surrounding young men will counsel first. Or come to agreeance on the ass whupping.

 

[RickyDiBiase]

Crime rate was very bad before rap

Had a cousin I never met who got set on fire by some Opps. This was 1986. Guess too much Run D.M.C.

 

[OG Talk]

Lack of after school programs is the problem.

What after school program is gonna keep 18-44 year old brothers from killing each other?

it's past normal, we celebrate and promote it in our music. Even invoking the names of Black males that were murdered in the chorus of songs.

"Who I smoke???? {insert dead Black male}"

Agreed.

But what do you think the root cause is?

 

[Swirv]

civilians reporting crime should have never been referred to as that and furthermore i don't know why street rules became seemingly the only code of conduct people have.

start telling... yes. if you a law abiding citizen do not protect criminals because they look like you.

Thanks for clarifying my initial point. Unfortunately, all telling is now viewed as snitching. But civilians shouldn’t be protecting violent individuals with no regard for public safety, no matter how good they appear to be.

 

[RickyDiBiase]

Thanks for clarifying my initial point. Unfortunately, all telling is now viewed as snitching. But civilians shouldn’t be protecting violent individuals with no regard for public safety, no matter how good they appear to be.

The police dropped the ball and have without any valid protection for people who come forward. They get millions of dollars dumped in their departments to sit on their asses and get all the new toys but do nothing with them except break up protests, beat on homeless people and write tickets. If there was incentives on top of legitimate surefire protection then we could see progress.

 

[42 Monks]

you are now talking in circles

fight culture not structure.

nobody said rely on anything to save you. or do nothing. that's disingenuous. there's absolutely nothing stoping your from doing things in parallel that are not in conflict just excuses. if that danger is within boxed in lines it's solvable and within reach to address. that's why a community would be vital to do so and would do it fast. those lines are the boundaries of it

How am I talking in circles lol

I said save yourself black man was one of the few things said here that I resonated with and explained why - you said it can't work - i said it did for me. then said that being able to sustain yourself before trying to solve gigantic problems that have gone unsolved for generations or relying on an intangible thing like community is critical. we largely don't even own these communities man.

one drowning man can't save another drowning man. drowning men together can't build a raft in the middle of shark infested waters either. but if you can get to the shore - just make sure you remember to come back with a boat or something.... that is not crazy.

if anything "what is the community? who is it helping truly?" getting waved away for a "but you didn't escape system racism" is the circle you went for out the gate and its whatever. this topic sucks to talk about because its deeply personal to everyone who's invested. so don't take this as me being pointed or heated with you or anything like that

 

[B86]

It's wild how homicide is the leading cause of death for Black men and we can say out of our mouths that music that centers around the murder of Black men is "entertainment"

Something is very wrong, very broken

 

[B86]

Is this homicide by other peers or homicide by law enforcement?

nikka, please. You don’t even need data for this. As fukked up as law enforcement is towards us, we kill more of each other in a day in this country than law enforcement will in a year

 

[Tommy Sheppard]

Lack of after school programs is the problem.

this ain’t going to help.

 

[Robbie3000]

Damn. Looks like Whites and Asians are taking themselves out with suicides and we are taking ourselves out with homicides.

Something is wrong with this country for both numbers to be so high.

 

[Mikhail Bakunin]

No contact no conflict. Conflict is pretty much unavoidable with a large segment of Black men. The respect for each other just isn't there and some brothers hate their lives and hate everyone that looks like them.

 

[BunchePark]

Have y'all been incarcerated?

I'm talking a year or better?

Some of these nikka is WILD my nikka

"Oh this nikka might really need to be in this bytch "

You gotta see it up close and personal

 

[Braman]

The single most thing we can do is raise our families with two parents in the home and stay married.

Men in the homes by itself would drastically cut violent crimes down exponentially. After that the key thing would be staying married with outside marital issues which in turn would destroy the home.

After one generation we would easily cut homicides down by half and have a legacy for our families to build on if black men and women could work together.

Absolutely. When addressing almost any problem, you need to look at the kids. Bc the adults, the teenagers, hell age 12 n up maybe even younger, they are already too far gone. Gotta look long term

 

[RareAirBorne]

I know this is the reality we live with everyday but thinking about potential solutions to the lack of love amongst young black men and the community in general got me like

I feel it's partly due to disenfranchisement over generations and our culture leaning more towards self destruction as a response but how to shift that momentum, I don't know. I know we need to celebrate black men and black life more because it be our own that see each other as valueless now. Cacs still sees us the same but they now know we hate each enough to take care of the dirty work for them

Edit: Just saw this and wanted to quote it for emphasis as I think this is probably the closest we can come to as a solution individually but would still take numbers to make impact:

The single most thing we can do is raise our families with two parents in the home and stay married.

Men in the homes by itself would drastically cut violent crimes down exponentially. After that the key thing would be staying married with outside marital issues which in turn would destroy the home.

After one generation we would easily cut homicides down by half and have a legacy for our families to build on if black men and women could work together.