Keep your circle small. Stay the hell away from people...
Murder is the leading cause of death for Black men under 44
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ThatTruth777
Superstar
Society is at fault for a lot of it but we have to stop the negative influences.
aight whatever man
there's a reason you see communal based ethnicities prospering even when they have many hurdles to overcome. they eat together and raise up together. shyt is really not that complicated b.
the power of one vs many... your individual strengths/accomplishments would be multiplied exponentially as opposed to the gradual shuffle you talking about of waiting generations.
this is shows you the lack of common sense most people have and low level logic displayed by american
how many how else could a fully healthy person die other than being killed
Of course the numbers are like that, nobody 24 years old is dying of muthafukking heart disease
how many how else could a fully healthy person die other than being killed
Of course the numbers are like that, nobody 24 years old is dying of muthafukking heart disease
I think most people account for external factors (e.g., poverty). However, we can’t get bogged down by fallacy of a single causation. Comparatively, other indigent communities are not killing 35% of their youth. In turn, there has to be factors that are not wholly encompassed by poverty that are exacerbating the killing in our communities. Admittedly, I will say that these other factors (whatever they may or may not be) are hard to quantify in an empirical data set vis-a-vis something as numerically non-amorphous as murder. I’m just going to bullet point some observations of our current predicament.
* We’ve completely lost the ability to police our own communities. I really noticed it when Trayvon Martin was murdered. It occurred to me after that young lady he was on the phone with took the stand and was almost incapable of forming a complete sentence. There was a lot of backlash surrounding her online, but she had a legion of supporters too. Currently, there is always a throng of supporters for whatever social, educational, moral, or psychological inadequacies a person may have in our community. Years ago when she was a child and struggling with speech — a neighbor, clergy, a teacher, someone — would have pulled her aside and said, “Hey, we need to work on you being able to articulate yourself. You’re going to have to be able to navigate the world on your own accord,” but those things are old-hat now. The reality is, the world was always going to be a much crueler place for a young black girl with children already that can’t/couldn’t effectively speak than whatever someone was saying about her on Instagram. However, we can’t address those micro realities anymore.
* Some of the same things that are proverbial poison pills socially are the biggest entertainment blocs in our community. The same stuff that’s poisoning us, we often find entertaining. People don’t like to hear it; but rap has a huge influence. For example, look how everyone says “smoking on a _____ pack,” now. Where’d that come from? That’s just an example how rap is easily able to disseminate ideas to the masses, and if you’re ingesting, “spin the block music” all day as a impressionable youth…. Yeah.
* nikka. Again, another mass delusion; but shyt has been incredibly detrimental for the community. It’s the constant reiteration and commodifIcation of “other status.” I mean, you’re not even really a fully actualized — nor realized person. You’re something else. You’re a league below that. You’re a “nikka.” Of course — I gotta get your ass out of the paint…. nikka.
* We often live such constrained; yet impasse ridden lives that we’ve normalized a lot of behaviors that aren’t normal and are in fact deviant behaviors. Moreover, a lot of us find such behaviors funny or cute. fukking a woman in the middle of a restaurant is not normal. Shootouts on the expressway is not some normal run of the mill social activity in a functional society. A black man getting up and slapping another black man in the middle of an awards show is not a normative behavior. All varying levels of deviance, but all with a lot of people on here that we’re cheering these acts on and most of the dudes on this site are 30-40+ years old.
* This goes back to your point about external factors. Even with external stimuli accounted for there has to be somethings we can proactively do for ourselves to improve of plight. If not, we’ve not only have already lost the battle but the war. We just don’t realize it, yet. It would be a fait accompli. Martin Delaney was talking about the same stuff we’re talking about today in 1852 when he wrote: The Condition, Elevation, Emigration, and Destiny of Colored People in the US. The same stuff in 1852! That’s incredibly sobering. What befuddles me about the black community is we actually have the highest self-esteem in most age ranges respective to other races. This is data I’ve seen/pulled myself from the GSS before. Thus, when people say our problem is “self-hate,” I believe it to be too simplistic in scope. I’m still thinking of a name for this phenomenon.
Reading this you’d think I was some conservative foggy. I’m actually a relatively young progressive. However, I can’t turn a blind eye to the things I’ve seen anecdotally or have gleaned empirically in my studies. I’m always going to be optimistic; but yeah. We’re in a bad state.
There's a reason and its not complicated. For real - the label on this thread is black men dying to directed violence. Its a lot easier to build when you're in a safe position to do so. And when so much of that danger is within the boxed in lines that others have drawn for us, then what's the point of that reaction at all? Its not irrational at all.
The sooner more individuals stop trying to fight colossal structures that have become so good at keeping us down that they hijack our own movements and stop relying primarily on some formless thing like community to save them when its clearly polluted... the sooner we can have more people able to throw life preservers back and pull others out.
There is no solution to this that will occur in one generation.
At best ,"beating this" will consist of you being assimilated by the European. Probably whitewashing yourself culturally and physically. With most of the young black population being octaroons by the year 2050.
But if you want to try to fight against cancer,while living in a cancer riddled body,while simeotaneously feeding the cancer. Feel free to try,but I dont believe you can survive it.
But dont worry,black people will live on through those of us who leave in 2028. We will tell the tragic story of the Octaroonians,formerly known as African Americans,who stayed behind in the U.S
GreenGhxst
Veteran
This sucks, but I've accepted this state of affairs
I just won't place myself in a situation where im likely to be a victim
Only hang and befriend positive brehs with the right mindset
I just won't place myself in a situation where im likely to be a victim
Only hang and befriend positive brehs with the right mindset
Fill Collins
I didn't mean to verge!
tl;dr - You can't save the whole race, but you can save your neighborhood
A lot of people, it seems like, hide under Black dysfunction to justify inaction.
Trust me, I really, really understand why someone would "give up" and me personally, I don't have any high hopes or magical, pie-in-the-sky plans for all Black folk but what you can do is start giving a damn about your neighborhood, your community and start from there.
Go to a city council meeting, volunteer at your church's food drive, vote locally, do SOMETHING that'll help those around you in real time.
Another thing is social media, at this point in time, you're choosing toxic platforms to listen to whether it's bird babble, red pill shyt, gossip, LGBT shyt, etc. I only see the aforementioned stuff on here.
There's normal, regular Black people out here and online
A lot of people, it seems like, hide under Black dysfunction to justify inaction.
Trust me, I really, really understand why someone would "give up" and me personally, I don't have any high hopes or magical, pie-in-the-sky plans for all Black folk but what you can do is start giving a damn about your neighborhood, your community and start from there.
Go to a city council meeting, volunteer at your church's food drive, vote locally, do SOMETHING that'll help those around you in real time.
Another thing is social media, at this point in time, you're choosing toxic platforms to listen to whether it's bird babble, red pill shyt, gossip, LGBT shyt, etc. I only see the aforementioned stuff on here.
There's normal, regular Black people out here and online
5thbornpowerseed
All Star
Our people be killing each other....
But these other folks be really offing themselves...
The sad thing is how it’s become so normal to us. There’s always been violence in my city but they doing shyt at places and times they never would have in the past. There’s been two shootings less than a half mile from my house just in the past week. Both at different shopping centers while the sun was still up. shyt is crazy. But the shyt has become so normal that I actually have more fear of some white supremacist coming thru randomly shooting up some place I’m at when the odds of that happening are way less
it's past normal, we celebrate and promote it in our music. Even invoking the names of Black males that were murdered in the chorus of songs.
"Who I smoke???? {insert dead Black male}"
#BOTHSIDES
All Star
There's pretty much no reason why 80-95% of black men should be poor/broke/unemployed. Folks just don't want to do it. Listen to an urban radio station for an hour, especially around rush hour and you'll hear ads about free job training. they're targeting blk folks and blk men for jobs... I see all types of advertising for skills training. keep it 100.... I've been hearing these ads on the radio since I was like 10 years old. yall gotta stop the cap.
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you are now talking in circles
fight culture not structure.
nobody said rely on anything to save you. or do nothing. that's disingenuous. there's absolutely nothing stoping your from doing things in parallel that are not in conflict just excuses. if that danger is within boxed in lines it's solvable and within reach to address. that's why a community would be vital to do so and would do it fast. those lines are the boundaries of it
You’re aggregating data, using the term “top 3, to try to make a point that’s not valid. Even though only 2 groups had homicide outside the top 3, the next highest percentage of deaths from homicide is like 16%. The rest are like 14% and 6% or less. Black people are at 35%. So the closest group has less than half of the amount of deaths from homicide, by percentage, than black men.
Regarding the data though, I’m curious as to why some of these numbers don’t even come out to 50%