I mean I'm just going based off what you say in your posts in this topic. What ideologies and agendas should black folks be looking for?
Murder is the leading cause of death for Black men under 44
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Frangala
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lets focus on murder you stay on topic by not adding OR ACCIDENTS because murder actually takes some premeditation and deliberation to commit which is why it so worrying that young Black people are actually thinking about killing and acting on those thoughts more at higher rates than their age counterparts of other racial/ethnic backgrounds.
Let's say on topic with the MURDER part because it speaks to mentality and how people think and acting out on those thoughts the ACCIDENTS part should only be brought to the equation for comparison purposes when we see that other young people of other races are not dying at the same probability and/or frequency as young Black males from MURDER which makes the situation that young Black males even more dire because it cannot be explained away as just a "young people thing" since other non-Black young people are not dying at the same rates from MURDER as young Black people (specifically males). Understood?
Young whites hispanics and asians are not dying from MURDERS like young Black people instead their leading causes of deaths are accidents or suicides but what you are trying to do with your argument is lump all young people in the same group and attribute the leading causes of death as accidents and murders without stratifying by race and analyzing the leading cause which was the main purpose of the OP stratification by RACE and age and not just lump all young people together as both ACCIDENTS, SUICIDES and MURDERS (UNJUSTIFIABLE HOMICIDES).
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Its not just the flat amount of deaths either.
That's an absurd amount of young men exposed to violence directly and indirectly. My brother wasn't even out of high school and he was attending funerals of his teammates. He had a good support system. I don't know if his friends did.
Once violence becomes normalized past a certain level its hard to make it foreign again.
That's an absurd amount of young men exposed to violence directly and indirectly. My brother wasn't even out of high school and he was attending funerals of his teammates. He had a good support system. I don't know if his friends did.
Once violence becomes normalized past a certain level its hard to make it foreign again.
OfTheCross
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No it's not, breh. Murder is only in the top 3 for Blacks and Hispanics. And the percentage of Blacks being murdered is waaaay higher. It is not normal.
It's their country
Here’s the thing though, black people are more likely to be in poverty than most other groups. Now we can get into the reason for that, but it’s so deeply imbedded into the fabric of this country that it’s nearly impossible to fix in our current state. So instead, I think it makes sense to come up with a reasonable way forward for our own people that have already been victimized so that we can at least LIMIT the continued victimization of ourselves.
All people, black, white and whatever, make decisions based on self preservation. For some reason many young black males in poverty feel that the easiest way to save themselves is to kill each other. We have to figure out a way to reshape that perception.
Godless Socialist CEO
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Progressive ones, policies that do away with private/public partnerships and put money directly into improving our communities infrastructures like public housing, schools, parks etc. Stripping cops of their insane amount of funding and putting that money into mental health, housing the homeless, getting people off drugs. Events for families that bring the community together etc. Funding that helps fix healthcare outcomes as it’s well known black Americans have some of the worst healthcare outcomes in the country etc. Imposing regulations on businesses to insure people are getting fair wages
There’s lots of things we can do but it’s gotta start locally first
Why are you referencing suicide and accidents? That’s not murder.
I'm trying really hard to think what a solution to this would be. I know some say rap has to take some blame in this but I've listened to some of the most violent music in hip hop and have never committed a violent act.
I always thought about the consequences of what killing somebody would be or what selling drugs would be (even tho my homies sold). I didn't want to deal with those consequences. I think black men just gotta look to themselves and think before they act.
But too often instincts or snap decisions take the lead and obviously it's leading to the worst outcome possible.
I always thought about the consequences of what killing somebody would be or what selling drugs would be (even tho my homies sold). I didn't want to deal with those consequences. I think black men just gotta look to themselves and think before they act.
But too often instincts or snap decisions take the lead and obviously it's leading to the worst outcome possible.
When I look at people who should be beyond it, that are still beholden to hood culture and hood ideology, it tells me that this shyt will never stop.
The quote “The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing” comes to mind.
Bc there is always gonna be haves and have nots, but where we are different is we have the faulty premise of being 1 big family. Rich white folk don’t gaf about, and openly separate from, “poor white trash”.
Us? Black women go out of their way to say ‘I’m a lawyer, I have a JD, but I also love trap music’…and they date down, chase thugs, etc. Dudes will be rich and famous and still be on some Stephen Jackson, Ja morant. Kids from the burbs still chase poverty and rapper lifestyles.
We are the only culture that it’s taboo to go against the wrongs within your culture. Chris rock jumped out there and said what a lot of folk was holding in ‘I hate nggas’. I loved that shyt…ffwd I believe nggas now call him a c00n for that
The quote “The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing” comes to mind.
Bc there is always gonna be haves and have nots, but where we are different is we have the faulty premise of being 1 big family. Rich white folk don’t gaf about, and openly separate from, “poor white trash”.
Us? Black women go out of their way to say ‘I’m a lawyer, I have a JD, but I also love trap music’…and they date down, chase thugs, etc. Dudes will be rich and famous and still be on some Stephen Jackson, Ja morant. Kids from the burbs still chase poverty and rapper lifestyles.
We are the only culture that it’s taboo to go against the wrongs within your culture. Chris rock jumped out there and said what a lot of folk was holding in ‘I hate nggas’. I loved that shyt…ffwd I believe nggas now call him a c00n for that
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NYChase718
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The white male kills himself off
rbksNgirbauds
Even on the court we stay flyy, Jada & A.I.
This and only this. Any other "suggestions" or "theories" are moot and just a way to dance around the corner issue(s).... namely, we have no fukking culture . Simple as that. Until that changes , nothing changes
You're looking at what you posted?No it's not, breh. Murder is only in the top 3 for Blacks and Hispanics. And the percentage of Blacks being murdered is waaaay higher. It is not normal.
Hispanic - Accidents Homicide
Black - Homicide Accidents
Pacific Islander - accidents homicide
Asian - Suicide Accidents
Natives - accidents, suicide homicide
White folks - Accidents suicide
Literally quoted the exact same goal posts,Look at you moving the goalposts and deflecting
and saying i'm moving them somehowclearly still not comprehending anything