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More lies. The 96 March issue of The Source which came out in early February, weeks before All Eyes On Me dropped is where we learn on Pac and Biggies prior relationship for the first time.




He talks about Biggie stealing his style (which was Pac being delusional) He talks about fukking Faith. The whole article was some jaw dropping shyt where Biggie was the main focus. Pac had that article drop right before the album and it was one of the main reasons I bought the album because I thought he was gonna talk about Biggie on it. I later thought it was genius that Pac trolled us with the Source article and have us rush to the stores only to make us go back to the store months later for Hit 'em Up. But to say that this Source article wasn't Pac using Biggie to promote All Eyes On Me is a complete lie.
That issue didn’t release no fukking WEEKS before AEOM that’s fukking cap. AEOM dropped Feb 13th and Source Magazine issues never dropped beginning of the month it was always the middle. At best it was prolly the same week or week after. California Love already dropped as a single months before then nikka stop being goofy. U tried to act like Pac got his success on the back of Biggie which is a lie. Pac sold more records than Biggie while they was both alive and after death.
 

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Who, "Murder Mook"?

All "Murder Mook" is doing here is confirming that he is not qualified to hold a valid position of credibility within such a discussion

Biggie didn't do enough in his catalog to qualify for such a status

This is readily apparent, quantifiable and self-evident and to not understand this is to not understand why The Game was not eligible for GOAT status after dropping The Doctor's Advocate

You can merely say that Biggie stylistically your favorite, which means he possesses a skill set that you value
Murda Mook is a bit corny but he can rap rap for real
 

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nikka shut up I’m born n raised NYC. RTD didn’t sell OD right when it dropped it took some time. Biggie was a pressure cooker and kept dropping bangers.
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Nope. You aren't from NYC talking like that. You weren't there.

Hot 97 was playing Juicy and Unbelievable nonstop way before RTD even dropped. Juicy and Unbelievable was all over NYC heavy that summer. The album dropped right before school started and was at the top of conversation in the classrooms. Followed by the Flavor In Your Ear remix and Da Brat's B Side Biggie was the top dog when school started in Sept of 94. There was no rapper bigger then Biggie when school started.

I can also tell you were not going to clubs in late 1994 and 1995 either.
 

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I feel like Nas is overrated story teller, yes good lyrics but is cadence flow, be boring and it's hard to get the "feels" when you listening. I get hyped listen to a biggie story but a Bad one?? Not really
 

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That issue didn’t release no fukking WEEKS before AEOM that’s fukking cap. AEOM dropped Feb 13th and Source Magazine issues never dropped beginning of the month it was always the middle. At best it was prolly the same week or week after. California Love already dropped as a single months before then nikka stop being goofy.

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More lies. The Source always dropped the last week before the month it was issued. So if it was to drop in February then it hit the news stands in the last week of January. Especially in NYC were we had access to Source and Vibe first. The fact that you just lied and said that it dropped in the middle of the month forces me to not take you serious anymore. That's how I know you weren't in NYC because other states got The Source later then we did. FACTS. I read that Pac article before that album dropped, hence my motivation to even cop the album but according to you, my own experience didn't happen. Get outta here.
 

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More lies. The 96 March issue of The Source which came out in early February, weeks before All Eyes On Me dropped is where we learn on Pac and Biggies prior relationship for the first time.




He talks about Biggie stealing his style (which was Pac being delusional) He talks about fukking Faith. The whole article was some jaw dropping shyt where Biggie was the main focus. Pac had that article drop right before the album and it was one of the main reasons I bought the album because I thought he was gonna talk about Biggie on it. I later thought it was genius that Pac trolled us with the Source article and have us rush to the stores only to make us go back to the store months later for Hit 'em Up. But to say that this Source article wasn't Pac using Biggie to promote All Eyes On Me is a complete lie.

"On December 6, 1995, the album was certified double platinum for sales of over two million copies in the United States.[47] "

Last I checked Pac wasn't struggling to sell records before mentioning Biggie. MATW went double platinum. This idea that the most controversial man in hip-hop NEEDED Biggie,as if people didn't want to hear him talk about the shooting and going to jail is stupid. Biggie being connected to Pac has favored him far more than Pac,other than the getting killed part:francis:. But let's just say we don't know all the details or if he may have had that coming according to Chuck Phillips. That freestyle doesn't help his case:hubie:


Not sure why your derailing to talk about everything but rapping though:mjlol:
 

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This idea that the most controversial man in hip-hop NEEDED Biggie,as if people didn't want to hear him talk about the shooting and going to jail is stupid.


But you are talking hypotheticals that didn't happen. The fact that Pac used Biggie as promo for All Eyes On Me is a fact. Ain't no erasing the facts. Don't quote me to talk about what might've not happened when what actually happened actually happened. I reject your hypotheticals and only acknowledge the actual facts.
 

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I feel like Nas is overrated story teller, yes good lyrics but is cadence flow, be boring and it's hard to get the "feels" when you listening. I get hyped listen to a biggie story but a Bad one?? Not really
I know exactly what you saying, 😳. That’s kinda Nas biggest hindrance as an MC, his voice inflection and tonality and all that is pretty much static, some people don’t “feel” him like a Pac or Big, etc. And when he attempts to incorporate those aspects it sounds kinda corny lol, see “Who Kilt It” for starters.

I didn’t really like the screaming on “One Mic”, in a vacuum, either…but the song and energy going low and high, low and high like that was dope tho. Nas, lyrically…the vividness, is what makes him arguably the best storyteller in rap tho, Biggie is vivid and detailed too but Nas is lyrically better, imo.
 

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Nope. You aren't from NYC talking like that. You weren't there.

Hot 97 was playing Juicy and Unbelievable nonstop way before RTD even dropped. Juicy and Unbelievable was all over NYC heavy that summer. The album dropped right before school started and was at the top of conversation in the classrooms. Followed by the Flavor In Your Ear remix and Da Brat's B Side Biggie was the top dog when school started in Sept of 94. There was no rapper bigger then Biggie when school started.

I can also tell you were not going to clubs in late 1994 and 1995 either.

This is true.

Summer '94 was all about radio being nonstop Biggie-thons, lol.

By the time school came back around, we all had 1/2 the album from either leaks or promo tapes that were going around. B.I.G. was definitely the craziest artist moving at the time, before the album even dropped. They had the bootlegs everywhere too, so people were coming to school with the bootleg cassettes with just the blank white paper insert where the credits were supposed to be. HAHA!
 

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But you are talking hypotheticals that didn't happen. The fact that Pac used Biggie as promo for All Eyes On Me is a fact. Ain't no erasing the facts. Don't quote me to talk about what might've not happened when what actually happened actually happened. I reject your hypotheticals and only acknowledge the actual facts.


Okay, so Pac would've flopped without mentioning Biggie,is that better lol?


I don't see the point of you saying that,unless you are trying to paint the narrative Pac wouldn't have sold without mentioning Biggie. But that too would be a hypothetical that you supposedly hate:mjlol:?

Smart people can use past evidence to see the more likely scenario. Pac flopping post jail,with a smash single,on the biggest label if he didn't mention Biggie? Or Pac AT LEAST going double platinum like he did the previous album? Which isn't exactly somebody who "needs help" selling records lol



He's still running from the emcee talk y'all. Why did Biggie call Nas who you tried to discredit for help,against Pac who you also tried to discredit. He won't answer:wow:
 

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Nope. You aren't from NYC talking like that. You weren't there.

Hot 97 was playing Juicy and Unbelievable nonstop way before RTD even dropped. Juicy and Unbelievable was all over NYC heavy that summer. The album dropped right before school started and was at the top of conversation in the classrooms. Followed by the Flavor In Your Ear remix and Da Brat's B Side Biggie was the top dog when school started in Sept of 94. There was no rapper bigger then Biggie when school started.

I can also tell you were not going to clubs in late 1994 and 1995 either.
U mean the same way Illmatic was on the street damn near a whole year before official release and STILL debuted higher than RTD? Also I’m not old enough to have been in a club in 94 nikka u old. lol. Also I’m not saying Biggie wasn’t poppin but u acting like he immediately made Nas irrelevant which is pure cap.
 

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If you watch that video of him on Fulton Street, you could tell he was just talented. No crazy beat, no fame, no Puffy, no hype just pure charisma and talent. Also to add, real hunger.

For me though, Nas in 1994-1999 is the GOAT. Can't nobody ever tell me thisperson doesn't LOVE to rap.







 
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If you watch that video of him on Fulton Street, you could tell he was just talented. No crazy beat, no fame, no Puffy, no hype just pure charisma and talent. Also to add, real hunger.

For me though, Nas in 1994-1999 is the GOAT. Can't nobody ever tell me this person doesn't that LOVE to rap.



Nas was definitely GOAT-level from '94-'99.

I had him and B.I.G. on the same level back then. But after '99, Nas was never the same again. Still Top 10, but he lost that untouchable aura he had before. Overall though, I think B.I.G. is the actual GOAT. With just the two albums. Which is crazy.
 

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More lies. The Source always dropped the last week before the month it was issued. So if it was to drop in February then it hit the news stands in the last week of January. Especially in NYC were we had access to Source and Vibe first. The fact that you just lied and said that it dropped in the middle of the month forces me to not take you serious anymore. That's how I know you weren't in NYC because other states got The Source later then we did. FACTS. I read that Pac article before that album dropped, hence my motivation to even cop the album but according to you, my own experience didn't happen. Get outta here.
nikka no. U are talking about the MARCH issue. Which would have dropped in February not 2 months ahead. Same way the January 96 issue was released in 95. But hey maybe u remember better than me. Regardless. What u saying is still stupid. Know why? Cause PAC was coming off a hit record that released in December 95. And a hit album that dropped that same year. By the time AEOM dropped PAC had already outsold Biggie. So I’m confused what u tryna get at.
 
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