Monster Hunter: World | PS4/XB1/PC | Out Now

[teacher]

The A.I. Isn't "increased" it's the same A.I. everything is just turned up. They attack more, dodge more, take more damage, and deliver more damage. They aren't smarter. They still flail around and miss, and give me the same clear openings they gave me before. There's just less of them

The idea of the cloud would be that the A.I. is adaptive and can change/improve/get smarter on the go.

MHW ain't that

You reaching....I agree having to hit them more isn’t increased AI....but everything else is i.e seeing a bunch of melee players and staying a float, getting angrier faster when you are catching the beats or looking for food/rest when you catching the beats, doing more one shot atks etc....I’m not a developer though maybe someone else that programs can chime in....FYI just because they don’t do ‘new’ or ‘different’ moves doesn’t mean the AI is the same.

As you can see I’m a Monster Hunter Stan

 

[Take It In Blood]

is this game actually fun or just another grind fest?

 

[MeachTheMonster]

You reaching....I agree having to hit them more isn’t increased AI....but everything else is i.e seeing a bunch of melee players and staying a float, getting angrier faster when you are catching the beats or looking for food/rest when you catching the beats, doing more one shot atks etc....I’m not a developer though maybe someone else that programs can chime in....FYI just because they don’t do ‘new’ or ‘different’ moves doesn’t mean the AI is the same.

Yes. That's exactly what it means.

When the move sets are created devs balance the difficulty by deciding the frequency of attacks/defense/dodges/openings etc. increasing/decreasing those frequencies doesn't make the A.I. different.

Different A.I. or cloud A.I. as you referenced would be the monsters adapting to your strategy/moves.

In MHW, and this is how it's been from the start, the monster just goes through his move set while I get out of his way and try to progress through mine. The combat/A.I. Isn't the the strongpoint of the game and that doesn't change when the Monsters start to hit harder.

 

[voltronblack]

is this game actually fun or just another grind fest?

Honestly it both fun and grind fest but you don't really feel the grind in till you reach the end game.

 

[teacher]

Yes. That's exactly what it means.

When the move sets are created devs balance the difficulty by deciding the frequency of attacks/defense/dodges/openings etc. increasing/decreasing those frequencies doesn't make the A.I. different.

Different A.I. or cloud A.I. as you referenced would be the monsters adapting to your strategy/moves.

In MHW, and this is how it's been from the start, the monster just goes through his move set while I get out of his way and try to progress through mine. The combat/A.I. Isn't the the strongpoint of the game and that doesn't change when the Monsters start to hit harder.

no game adapts to your moves unless extremely basic

 

[firemanBk]

So one thing I dont get about the game is the multiplayer. You'd think it would be better to play with a group but for the most part it just makes things harder if everyone isn't good. One weak person makes it seems like I should have just solo'd instead of wasting my time fighting a powered up monster.


Seems like you should get more money and rewards for fighting as a group not less and penalties. Maybe I'm missing something?

Only way I play multiplayer is by answering SOS and purposely joining people with a way higher rank then me. So I know there's at least one person who's a beast. Also tend to look for people with other weapons than me so I know we won't be attacking monsters the same way

 

[PS5 Pro]

This is how everyone feels the first time they try this series. You will start to figure things out and it will be fun BUT... You'll realize you have to make a commitment if you wanna really enjoy this game. I can't make that type of commitment these days

Does this sound about right?

 

[Lord Beasley]

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The damage that's lost by having a weapon with those effects are huge, take a non elemental weapon they tend to have a larger base weapon damage that is even more increased when you slap a non elemental gem on them. Sleep is nice to have around but poison, blast water thunder ect all pretty bad on this mh sadly. When in one hit you can do that same damage my Hammer build has close to 2k attack. Once players reach around level 50 they see how bad those nerg weapons really are when you get better gems and augments. Those Diablos weapons, The Divine Slasher and the Jagras Greatsword are all absurd.

nerg weapons are not bad against elder dragons. Especially the LS. Don't lie to these folks

 

[Morose Polymath]

The Zorah Magdros is stingy as fukk with that damn Gem

Gotta a nikka out here putting in helps work to complete this set.

 

[42 Monks]

games don't adapt to players what the hell lol

and monster aggression/target prioritization/posture absolutely has variables and has had them for the past 3-4 entries. i dont even get the 'respect my time' complaints either - if you're enjoying the game, its respecting your time. if you're looking at it from a completionist standpoint then its a VERY different discussion. but if you're a completionist, you're looking for different things to begin with.

 

[firemanBk]

The Zorah Magdros is stingy as fukk with that damn Gem

Gotta a nikka out here putting in helps work to complete this set.

Got it on my second run through of that quest. I was . Rocking the Zorah dual blades right now.

 

[MeachTheMonster]

no game adapts to your moves unless extremely basic

Few games do. Hence the clamoring for cloud A.I. like in Forza.

Not to say that all games need it. But you brought it up.

 

[MeachTheMonster]

games don't adapt to players what the hell lol

and monster aggression/target prioritization/posture absolutely has variables and has had them for the past 3-4 entries. i dont even get the 'respect my time' complaints either - if you're enjoying the game, its respecting your time. if you're looking at it from a completionist standpoint then its a VERY different discussion. but if you're a completionist, you're looking for different things to begin with.

It was fun to kill Anjanath the first couple times. It was absolutely not fun to beat him probably a dozen times and still not have the materials for a full set of armor.

That's bullshyt

And you can't blame me for not enjoying the same damn thing over and over again. It's the games job to stay engaging.

 

[Kamikaze Revy]

no game adapts to your moves unless extremely basic

Metal Gear Solid VTPP
Best Features in Metal Gear Solid 5: The Phantom Pain
Killer Instinct
https://towardsdatascience.com/killergroove-c4c606601a8a

Hello Neighbor
https://kotaku.com/a-horror-game-where-the-ai-learns-from-your-every-move-1787241885

The teacher has become the student

 

[teacher]

Metal Gear Solid VTPP
Best Features in Metal Gear Solid 5: The Phantom Pain
Killer Instinct
https://towardsdatascience.com/killergroove-c4c606601a8a

Hello Neighbor
https://kotaku.com/a-horror-game-where-the-ai-learns-from-your-every-move-1787241885

The teacher has become the student

Those are basic adaptations because those games are still beatable by the majority, which aren’t really AI adaptations just protocols the programmer put in. AI adapting would be that IBM computer that specifically plays Chess not a $60 game

My point was the developers still need to code for the High Rank monster, but not 100% sure