Dumbest argument ever. And Russell accomplished more than Mike in less time so what does this mean?
Russell had his 7th title in Y8; took Mike until Y13 to get to 6. Russell won his 5th MVP in Y9; took Mike to Y13 to win his 5th. Russell is widely heralded as the greatest defensive player ever, in an era there was no such thing as DPOY. How many DPOYs do you think he would have won, hypothetically? Unquestionably more than the 1 that Mike won...
There was no FMVPs in Russell's day. How many would he won? Easily 5, and highly likely more than the 6 Mike won---->and Russell would have won those in less time than it took Mike to win 6...
The most illogical thing about Mike Stans is that they base his GOAT case as much off mythology and goalpost-moving as anything else. But watch a bunch of nikkas jump in here mad about how Russell did everything Mike did in shorter time hahaha...
Do I think this necessarily means Russell is historically greater than Mike? Of course not, there's nuance in all these subjective discussions. I think Russell's degree of success is because of the same thing as Mike's: right guy, right time, right era, right place. That level of achievement isn't happening again in a more advanced league, certainly not in the relatively short time frames they accomplished what they did. A bunch of circumstantial shyt lined up in their favors that just isn't allowable anymore...
@Juggalo Fred the only head on here who calls Russell the GOAT. None of you other nikkas do so yall can get the fukk on with who did what faster because Jordan doesn't win that contest either...
Russell didn’t score but no one did on those Celtics teams… they were extremely balanced. He was the defensive anchor. Undoubtedly the best defensive player ever based on his impact during the time he played.
There’s a definite bias to scoring when talking about GOATs, but what he did on the defensive end was worth more than 99% of players scoring. Hell, Red Auerbach broke the mold by drafting him: before, conventional wisdom was that you get your offense from your big men and their defense didn’t matter. Literally changed the game