Mike D of Beastie Boys: 2Pacs Quest for Authenticity Killed Him

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Pac did die because of a quest for authenticity but not in the sense that he wanted to prove he was real. He wanted others to hold the same standards of keeping it real that he did, which were intuitively principled. The whole 2pac/Bad Boy beef really stems from Pac's speaking out against Black Mafia because he perceived them as being fake in a sense because they tried to extort fellow brothers and had snitches like Haitian Jack running with them. Pac spoke out on it, got shot for it, didn't have the people he was hanging with stick up for him in the matter and consequently spoke up about that.

This led to the beef which was carried over in his music and was the prime reason why he chose to sign with Death Row. Every beef he got into after that, no matter how silly some seemed, can be traced back to him making a judgment on who was keeping it real and who wasn't. Pac wanted everyone to act on the sense of honor and pride that he did. Of course, most people ain't shyt because morals come at a price and so he clashed with a lot of people.

This is also what ultimately led him to beat down Orlando, not because he wanted to belong in a gang or prove that he was real but because he felt he really was objectively right and justified in taking it to those who opposed him because he knew about himself that he wanted what is best for the community. Orlando was affiliated with Puffy's camp, so by default he was on the wrong side morally in Pac's mind. He always felt his heart was in the right place. So if people opposed him, it had to be something wrong with them and their motivation. If you listen to that last major interview, this attitude clearly shows.
Now of course Pac was naive in believing that he could get all people to be real just by trying to live according to certain principles himself in various situations. But at the same time, he was really doing a lot to try to keep that authenticity a part of hip hop. We have seen since his death what happens when people are not held to a certain standard of 'realness'. Hip hop has turned pathetic and is more than ever infested with people living fantasies who ain't about shyt. Hip hop is not about community anymore, it's about money. It's a business vehicle rather than a culture for a community now. Pac's death represents this shift and his beef with Bad Boy was at least partly a symbolic clash between these opposing forces (sense of community and honor versus indifferent, opportunistic money-making) acting on hip hop culture. We all know which force came to dominate unfortunately. We used to love her. Now we just love the memory of Pac. :mjcry:
 

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^^^^ Its human nature really ....all these rappers wanna lend their 2 cents but no ones said shyte BC (before corpse).

You see examples of this trait/behaviour on this forum as well.

E.g :When a prominent/known poster puts out PIFF jokes/commentary etc, ya'll sheeples stay jocking his/her posts dapping & repping the shiiiiiit out of them with the 'hehehe p*ssy footing demeanour ' in full force.

But once said poster gets the Ban hammer ....you have the same muffukas putting on their 2 face foundation with the quickness & going off on a pre-empted verbal slander on how he/she was this that & the other on some bytchy gossipy I just got done ovulating shyte!

Fukk what anyone has to say about PAC in a negative light :pacspit:

The GOAT's message was clear on one his thought provoking hits

Remember me, as an outcast Outlaw

Another album out, that's what I'm about, more

Gettin raw 'til the day I see my casket

Buried as a G while the whole world remembers me

:lawd:
 

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How you figure? What you done more tough than shooting a cop?:patrice:

You're a fukking idiot. I bet you think being half Italian means youre gangster too :pachaha:

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Wow. All those smileys...did I warrant that??

You completely missed the point, I was talking about Allen Hughes being a 45 year old movie director. Please try to read threads more closely and I will try to make my posts easier to understand. I don't think youre retarded, I blame myself for not being clear....
 

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Wow. All those smileys...did I warrant that??

You completely missed the point, I was talking about Allen Hughes being a 45 year old movie director. Please try to read threads more closely and I will try to make my posts easier to understand. I don't think youre retarded, I blame myself for not being clear....

There is nothing to read closely...there is no way to sense tonality in text...you also did not put obvious information to indicate that you were speaking from the Hughes brothers perspective. I didn't know he was half-italian. The only clue was saying "film director".

I suspected that you were talking about the Hughes brother when you wrote "film director" but I typed all that up so I said...:yeshrug:.
 

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There is nothing to read closely...there is no way to sense tonality in text...you also did not put obvious information to indicate that you were speaking from the Hughes brothers perspective. I didn't know he was half-italian. The only clue was saying "film director".

I suspected that you were talking about the Hughes brother when you wrote "film director" but I typed all that up so I said...:yeshrug:.

I WAS NOT TALKING TO YOU ANYWAYS SO ITS ALL GOOD I GUESS
 

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pac wasnt real

y do ppl think he was?


How many more ppl r gonna come out and say that he's fake till u pac stans understand dude was a fraud



Oh boy another Somali Sperm licking BatiBoy records Diddy Knob Gobbler!!!!! (Voice of Chinese convenience store owner from menace) "I FEEL SORRY 4 YOUR MOTHER :pacspit::camby:
 

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i've been saying the same thing for years...he got himself and Biggie killed because of his shenanigans

The revisionist history is to much :laff:

So now Pac killed Biggie Smalls? :laff:

Why don't you blame Puffy for forcing Biggie to go to LA when he didn't even want to? :laff:

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people still can't bring up what was so fake about pac lol, what did he lie about or try to hide

how is the most authentic rapper on a quest for authenticity when he had his whole career

what do you mean by authenticity in the first place
 
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