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I don't respect anyone who didn't say shyt when Pac was alive. None of these nikkas ever said shyt in '96 
Mike D of Beastie Boys: 2Pacs Quest for Authenticity Killed Him
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who cares what that saltine haves to say 
Go to the coliseum and they hate Iverson,go to the ladies room they hate the "thugs" and the black women that love emOnly on the internet do I see black folks not show Pac love. Of course ive never hung around east coast nikkas in real life though
....We don't need @33DegreesCantMakeUsFreeze to figure this one out,Its simple mathematics, Maybe cats like Pac,or cats who listen to Pac been bogardin these nikkas lunchables and bytches they whole life
That aint got nothing to do with the goat yall
The Devil's Advocate
Call me Dad
The problem is people believe you have to be born a thug to be one
Sometimes things happen in life that cause you to not give a fukk
Look at someone like the real AZ. Was a model citizen all his life, then fell into the coke game. Next thing you know he was ruining whole cities worth of lives and responsible for multiple deaths
Things can happen in your life that cause you to just not give any fukks anymore. Or to capitalize off things you never imagined you exploit
That doesn't make you a fake. Makes you human. I know nikkas who grew up in the burbs. Had good families. Wasn't in real trouble. Went to school. Graduated. Saw coke dealers making more. Switched to coke. And went along with all the crazy and dangerous lifestyle with it.
It might make them stupid. But testing them will get you the same result as a day 1 "thug" on the corner
Sometimes things happen in life that cause you to not give a fukk
Look at someone like the real AZ. Was a model citizen all his life, then fell into the coke game. Next thing you know he was ruining whole cities worth of lives and responsible for multiple deaths
Things can happen in your life that cause you to just not give any fukks anymore. Or to capitalize off things you never imagined you exploit
That doesn't make you a fake. Makes you human. I know nikkas who grew up in the burbs. Had good families. Wasn't in real trouble. Went to school. Graduated. Saw coke dealers making more. Switched to coke. And went along with all the crazy and dangerous lifestyle with it.
It might make them stupid. But testing them will get you the same result as a day 1 "thug" on the corner
Produced by DJ Premier
Samples Chuck D from “Shut ’Em Down”
Premier We laid it down, and the ill thing was Snoop was there and so was Daz—and this was during the beef time. They was there chillin’, but it was all love. To make a long story short: on “Ten Crack Commandments” Big went in there and did the vocals and the only thing that Big instructed me to do besides what was already laid down was, “Every time I say number one, number two, number three, take that Chuck D scratch and scratch it with me saying the number.” I said, No problem. I did that, it came out to be another hit. I think it’s one of the best records he ever made. As soon as he was done with the vocals he goes, “Premier, I did it. I did it. I’m the greatest!” And that was the last time I ever saw him.
It was the fact that it was called “Ten Crack Commandments.” Chuck’s not into that. He doesn’t want his voice affiliated with anything that involves drug use or drinking alcohol, sex or whatever. So they came after me and Biggie’s estate, saying that basically we violated in the fact that we used him in a song that condoned drug use. I didn’t look at it that way, because, to me, that record was to cats in the street. So, to wrap that up, I told him—this is after the fact that Big had passed already, and [his death] was still fresh—I told Chuck, ’cause I was on tour with him, I was like, “Yo Chuck, why don’t you be easy on that? Because I feel like, why should we have to go through this when Big is dead and he’s not here to defend this lawsuit. You gonna put his mother through it? I don’t think that’s spiritually fair.” He said, “You know what? If it gets out of hand with everything, I’ll dead it.” I said, “OK, fine.” He never deaded it. I found Chuck one day around my neighborhood that I live in now. He happened to tap me on my shoulder, he was with his kids and I got into it with him a little bit. I never spoke to him again and I started kind of having a little hate for him to a certain degree. I felt like he was a hypocrite. I would never sue a dead man, especially Big. I thought that was spiritually wrong, especially for what he stands for. Because I love Chuck D as a lyricist, a performer and a writer and as the head of Public Enemy. I love what he represents, and I felt like that was a foul on the fact that he couldn’t let a man’s death override a lawsuit. I’d rather it be all on my back than have to go sue a dead man’s estate. It put a big dent in the rap game. But I saw Chuck at Jam Master Jay’s wake, and we spoke and we got everything behind us now.
Samples Chuck D from “Shut ’Em Down”
Premier We laid it down, and the ill thing was Snoop was there and so was Daz—and this was during the beef time. They was there chillin’, but it was all love. To make a long story short: on “Ten Crack Commandments” Big went in there and did the vocals and the only thing that Big instructed me to do besides what was already laid down was, “Every time I say number one, number two, number three, take that Chuck D scratch and scratch it with me saying the number.” I said, No problem. I did that, it came out to be another hit. I think it’s one of the best records he ever made. As soon as he was done with the vocals he goes, “Premier, I did it. I did it. I’m the greatest!” And that was the last time I ever saw him.
It was the fact that it was called “Ten Crack Commandments.” Chuck’s not into that. He doesn’t want his voice affiliated with anything that involves drug use or drinking alcohol, sex or whatever. So they came after me and Biggie’s estate, saying that basically we violated in the fact that we used him in a song that condoned drug use. I didn’t look at it that way, because, to me, that record was to cats in the street. So, to wrap that up, I told him—this is after the fact that Big had passed already, and [his death] was still fresh—I told Chuck, ’cause I was on tour with him, I was like, “Yo Chuck, why don’t you be easy on that? Because I feel like, why should we have to go through this when Big is dead and he’s not here to defend this lawsuit. You gonna put his mother through it? I don’t think that’s spiritually fair.” He said, “You know what? If it gets out of hand with everything, I’ll dead it.” I said, “OK, fine.” He never deaded it. I found Chuck one day around my neighborhood that I live in now. He happened to tap me on my shoulder, he was with his kids and I got into it with him a little bit. I never spoke to him again and I started kind of having a little hate for him to a certain degree. I felt like he was a hypocrite. I would never sue a dead man, especially Big. I thought that was spiritually wrong, especially for what he stands for. Because I love Chuck D as a lyricist, a performer and a writer and as the head of Public Enemy. I love what he represents, and I felt like that was a foul on the fact that he couldn’t let a man’s death override a lawsuit. I’d rather it be all on my back than have to go sue a dead man’s estate. It put a big dent in the rap game. But I saw Chuck at Jam Master Jay’s wake, and we spoke and we got everything behind us now.
i've been saying the same thing for years...he got himself and Biggie killed because of his shenanigans
looks like a thread full of fakkets
Some of these same nikkaz would prolly say that faggit kanye the voice of our generation. Our voice died in 96, nobody advocated and spoke for our generation like Pac did and that was when we were kids and some wasn't even born yet. If nikkaz actually listen to the music and read/listened to interviews they hip, if not they on that matrix time.
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I don't respect anyone who didn't say shyt when Pac was alive. None of these nikkas ever said shyt in '96
How could Mike D have talked about the cause of Pac's death before he died?
How could Mike D have talked about the cause of Pac's death before he died?
There are 3 months after September, maybe.
There are 3 months after September, maybe.
That's fair, but you're acting like people's opinions don't develop over time. Maybe Mike D didn't think that back in 96. Most people's views on hip-hop and gang culture/thug personas change as they grow older.
To be honest I forgot he ever existed so I wasn't concerned with his thoughts at all. But since he brought em up, he's reserved the right to be challenged or trolled by others as far as I'm concerned.
Some of these same nikkaz would prolly say that faggit kanye the voice of our generation. Our voice died in 96, nobody advocated and spoke for our generation like Pac did and that was when we were kids and some wasn't even born yet. If nikkaz actually listen to the music and read/listened to interviews they hip, if not they on that matrix time.
It's crazy how today's hiphop makes Pac's sh*t sound futuristic/next level, and his music is almost 20 years old
I think more or less as a black man if you were born after 1990 kinda you're f*cked with your current role models 
HacksawJimThuggin
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Dude was a complete fraud and average rapper.
He was doing ballet and shyt in high school and had fruity mannerisms.
Then he's a backup dancer for Digital Underground.
THEN dude all of a sudden wants to act hard? He had an identity crisis, like Mike D said. He got killed for trying to be something he wasn't.
Pac stans are delusional though, so they'll cape regardless. Game got made fun of for being a stripper and same for Ross being a CO, but somehow Pac faking the funk is justified. The double standards are disgusting.
He was doing ballet and shyt in high school and had fruity mannerisms.
Then he's a backup dancer for Digital Underground.
THEN dude all of a sudden wants to act hard? He had an identity crisis, like Mike D said. He got killed for trying to be something he wasn't.
Pac stans are delusional though, so they'll cape regardless. Game got made fun of for being a stripper and same for Ross being a CO, but somehow Pac faking the funk is justified. The double standards are disgusting.
Chuck had all the right to be upset by them using his vocals on a record about selling crack. Premier shouldn't have ever stepped to him at any point during the lawsuit
Edit: The fukk is this doing in the GOAT's thread?
