Michael Eric Dyson blasts Cornel West: ‘You ain’t that important’

[Piff Perkins]

first I wanna say Dyson's "street" dialogue has gotten VERY tiring. It seems so forced and rehearsed. I can imagine him spending hours in front of the mirror at home, practicing his rants and hand movements. Chill breh...

I lost respect for West awhile ago because he seems to have no understanding of nuance. The world is not black and white, yet he constantly views Obama on that scale. I'm not here to dikk ride the president - I respect him, I think he's real smart, I like more than a few of the things he has done...but he is far from perfect, and in some ways worse than Bush/Cheney (drones, assassinating US citizens, etc).

I can't take you seriously if you want to pretend like Obama has the power to just give black people stuff. West (and Dyson) criticized the stimulus because it allegedly didn't benefit black people, yet so much of that money went into inner cities and urban states. You expect Obama to write up a stimulus specifically for black people, brehs?

West spends so much time focusing on the negatives that he never touches on the positive. And then he wants to pretend like Obama hasn't done anything to help blacks. We gonna pretend like Obamacare isn't a major benefit to blacks (and minorities in general), from the Medicaid expansion to free preventive care? We gonna pretend like Obama didn't lower the crack/cocaine sentencing disparity laws? We gonna pretend like credit card reform didn't help black people? Let's be real, Obama has done some nice things.

The black community isn't gonna go anywhere if it just sits around complaining. I see Hispanics organizing, pressuring congress, and getting shyt done. I see Asians in California making their voices heard. What are black people doing? The entire point of Obama's first run was to inspire people to organize. How come inner cities aren't organized? And don't point to Al Sharpton's snitch ass and his marches. Nobody gives a fukk about marching in 2014. Organize, take over your school boards, take over your neighborhood boards, impact local elections. That's how you change shyt, from the bottom up. You can't start at the top (Obama) and expect the laurels to trickle down. Hispanics understand this, black people don't.

 

[kermit da hustla]

first I wanna say Dyson's "street" dialogue has gotten VERY tiring. It seems so forced and rehearsed. I can imagine him spending hours in front of the mirror at home, practicing his rants and hand movements. Chill breh...

I lost respect for West awhile ago because he seems to have no understanding of nuance. The world is not black and white, yet he constantly views Obama on that scale. I'm not here to dikk ride the president - I respect him, I think he's real smart, I like more than a few of the things he has done...but he is far from perfect, and in some ways worse than Bush/Cheney (drones, assassinating US citizens, etc).

I can't take you seriously if you want to pretend like Obama has the power to just give black people stuff. West (and Dyson) criticized the stimulus because it allegedly didn't benefit black people, yet so much of that money went into inner cities and urban states. You expect Obama to write up a stimulus specifically for black people, brehs?

West spends so much time focusing on the negatives that he never touches on the positive. And then he wants to pretend like Obama hasn't done anything to help blacks. We gonna pretend like Obamacare isn't a major benefit to blacks (and minorities in general), from the Medicaid expansion to free preventive care? We gonna pretend like Obama didn't lower the crack/cocaine sentencing disparity laws? We gonna pretend like credit card reform didn't help black people? Let's be real, Obama has done some nice things.

The black community isn't gonna go anywhere if it just sits around complaining. I see Hispanics organizing, pressuring congress, and getting shyt done. I see Asians in California making their voices heard. What are black people doing? The entire point of Obama's first run was to inspire people to organize. How come inner cities aren't organized? And don't point to Al Sharpton's snitch ass and his marches. Nobody gives a fukk about marching in 2014. Organize, take over your school boards, take over your neighborhood boards, impact local elections. That's how you change shyt, from the bottom up. You can't start at the top (Obama) and expect the laurels to trickle down. Hispanics understand this, black people don't.

dope post. i'd rep you if i wasn't in the red.

 

[Thoughts]

Man ...these "smart" nikkas gonna make me slap the shyt out them.

 

[Hood Critic]

I hate both of these n*ggas (West & Dyson) but I love them at the same time. Pseudo-colloquial ass n*ggas.

They are intellectuals in their own right but the level of self importance that oozes from them is unbearable at times.

 

[Malik]

So its cool for George Bush to stand up for "good hardworking Christian families" (nice choice of buzzwords, Republicans ) but, its a problem for Obama to do the same for blacks and minorities? Okay.

 

[Crucial]

I look at it differently from y'all. If Obama had campaigned on black upliftment, he would have lost.

If he was the type to switch up after winning in order to help blacks specifically, those tendencies would have surfaced long before him even running and he would never be President.

If he was a vocal black activist, he would have never been elected head of Harvard Law Review.

White America doesn't allow black people who talk about racial injustice to rise to the levels they would otherwise reach if they simply just ran from any controversial (truthful) subject matter.

Jay Z knows this, Oprah knows this.

 

[h2o_proof]

i fukking hate these idiots who felt obama owed the black community special attention simply because he's black. if he did that, it completely renders his presidency illegitimate, negating the importance of a black man becoming president in a nation still firmly grounded in white supremacy.

he's my President, not my black President. too many blacks are shortsighted and simple in their thinking.

I had this exact argument with a co-worker the other day. I hate when nikkas wear Obama t-shirts and shyt like that and overly patronize the whole "Black President" thing. It makes me almost want a cookie cutter stereotypical white dude like Romney in the office next go round to further legitimize Obama as just another president instead of the circus we're probably gonna have in 2016 with the various black dudes, white women, and gay hispanics that are gonna try to throw their hat in the runnings.

 

[h2o_proof]

but he does owe black people a lot.

nikka, George Washington owes black people a lot! Let's start at the beginning, and work our way down please.

 

[Poitier]

When I was schooling in NYC, one day I was in Soho and saw Cornel West dressed like it's the year 1888 with two anorexic, coked out White women. He had a cane and one hoe on each arm, cheesin

 

[Amare's Right Hook]

You aint never met no Frank Sinatra

 

[you're NOT "n!ggas"]

first I wanna say Dyson's "street" dialogue has gotten VERY tiring. It seems so forced and rehearsed. I can imagine him spending hours in front of the mirror at home, practicing his rants and hand movements. Chill breh...

I've been thinking the same for the longest

The black community isn't gonna go anywhere if it just sits around complaining. I see Hispanics organizing, pressuring congress, and getting shyt done. I see Asians in California making their voices heard. What are black people doing? The entire point of Obama's first run was to inspire people to organize. How come inner cities aren't organized? And don't point to Al Sharpton's snitch ass and his marches. Nobody gives a fukk about marching in 2014. Organize, take over your school boards, take over your neighborhood boards, impact local elections. That's how you change shyt, from the bottom up. You can't start at the top (Obama) and expect the laurels to trickle down. Hispanics understand this, black people don't.

....

 

[Kritic]

When I was schooling in NYC, one day I was in Soho and saw Cornel West dressed like it's the year 1888 with two anorexic, coked out White women. He had a cane and one hoe on each arm, cheesin

 

[Kritic]

You aint never met no Frank Sinatra

i don't even get what that line is supposed to mean and why he even brought up frank sinatra on black issues. i read it as 'you no farrakhan' the first time .

 

[Amare's Right Hook]

i don't even get what that line is supposed to mean and why he even brought up frank sinatra on black issues. i read it as 'you no farrakhan' the first time .

It's a reference to when he says " you are one of those my way or the highway people", the song my way is a Sinatra classic.

 

[feelosofer]

first I wanna say Dyson's "street" dialogue has gotten VERY tiring. It seems so forced and rehearsed. I can imagine him spending hours in front of the mirror at home, practicing his rants and hand movements. Chill breh...

I lost respect for West awhile ago because he seems to have no understanding of nuance. The world is not black and white, yet he constantly views Obama on that scale. I'm not here to dikk ride the president - I respect him, I think he's real smart, I like more than a few of the things he has done...but he is far from perfect, and in some ways worse than Bush/Cheney (drones, assassinating US citizens, etc).

I can't take you seriously if you want to pretend like Obama has the power to just give black people stuff. West (and Dyson) criticized the stimulus because it allegedly didn't benefit black people, yet so much of that money went into inner cities and urban states. You expect Obama to write up a stimulus specifically for black people, brehs?

West spends so much time focusing on the negatives that he never touches on the positive. And then he wants to pretend like Obama hasn't done anything to help blacks. We gonna pretend like Obamacare isn't a major benefit to blacks (and minorities in general), from the Medicaid expansion to free preventive care? We gonna pretend like Obama didn't lower the crack/cocaine sentencing disparity laws? We gonna pretend like credit card reform didn't help black people? Let's be real, Obama has done some nice things.

The black community isn't gonna go anywhere if it just sits around complaining. I see Hispanics organizing, pressuring congress, and getting shyt done. I see Asians in California making their voices heard. What are black people doing? The entire point of Obama's first run was to inspire people to organize. How come inner cities aren't organized? And don't point to Al Sharpton's snitch ass and his marches. Nobody gives a fukk about marching in 2014. Organize, take over your school boards, take over your neighborhood boards, impact local elections. That's how you change shyt, from the bottom up. You can't start at the top (Obama) and expect the laurels to trickle down. Hispanics understand this, black people don't.

Real talk, you can basically close the thread on this.