Michael Eric Dyson blasts Cornel West: ‘You ain’t that important’

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nah. not true at all. if you were intelligent and informed, you'd know cornel west is a fraud whose history is filled with even worse prostitution to white interests than he's accused obama and his associates of. the guy is a pretentious hack.

What has he said about Obama or any of the others I named that's wrong in your opinion then?

For example He's said Obama is a war criminal who is a tool for wall street and big corporations.... That's not true?
 
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what's hard to understand? if he simply used the presidency as a platform to push a "black" agenda, it makes his presidency meaningless. why should he feel obligated to focus on black people. why do we need to segregate ourselves from the rest of the population? why can't we look at his current achievements (lilly ledbetter act, fighting for hikes in minimum wage, providing assistance to homeowners who suffered from the housing crisis, etc.) that help ALL americans (not just blacks) as something to applaud? why do black "intellectuals" want him to focus on black people? it makes us look petty and insignificant.

i'm glad he's not acting like black people's issues come first. i'm tired of being treated like i'm handicapped and need special assistance.
 
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What has he said about Obama or any of the others I named that's wrong in your opinion then?

For example He's said Obama is a war criminal who is a tool for wall street and big corporations.... That's not true?

what makes obama a war criminal? he became president during a war. he can't simply withdraw all of our troops immediately from iraq and afganistan. it isn't practical and it isn't his job. but, beyond that, he has significantly drawn down our troop presence in iraq and he's shifted from troop involvement in afghanistan to the use of drones. you can argue that drones are inhumane, but their use has contributed to a significant decline in the deaths of american troops.

as for being a huge tool for wall street, i don't buy that argument, either. every president in america works on behalf of corporations and wall street. we're a capitalist society, and wall street - which is home to many of the corporations in our economy - is what drives prosperity in america. it doesn't make sense to unilaterally attack wall street instead of working with them.

so, no, obama is not a war criminal. and he is no more a tool of wall street than any other president that would be in the white house.
 
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what's hard to understand? if he simply used the presidency as a platform to push a "black" agenda, it makes his presidency meaningless. why should he feel obligated to focus on black people. why do we need to segregate ourselves from the rest of the population? why can't we look at his current achievements (lilly ledbetter act, fighting for hikes in minimum wage, providing assistance to homeowners who suffered from the housing crisis, etc.) that help ALL americans (not just blacks) as something to applaud? why do black "intellectuals" want him to focus on black people? it makes us look petty and insignificant.

i'm glad he's not acting like black people's issues come first. i'm tired of being treated like i'm handicapped and need special assistance.
not asking for special treatment the nicca just doesn't give a sh1t.
 
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not asking for special treatment the nicca just doesn't give a sh1t.

that's false. if blacks are americans and we enjoy the benefits of certain legislative achievements like any other american, then, an argument can be made that obama DOES give a shyt. he's the most productive president in history, when you look at his record. and that's regarding legislation that helps americans.

are we black americans? or are we americans? i'm an american.
 

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that's false. if blacks are americans and we enjoy the benefits of certain legislative achievements like any other american, then, an argument can be made that obama DOES give a shyt. he's the most productive president in history, when you look at his record. and that's regarding legislation that helps americans.

are we black americans? or are we americans? i'm an american.
i don't know what america you live in but they could ease up on the laws that unfairly incarcerate blacks and minorities. that ain't happening. it's only been made legal in the whitest states. i'm not even a pot head or smoke weed but i'm just talkin for the niccas that do.

:deadmanny:@most productive president in history. that explains your rep... :russ::bryan:


i didn't think the dumbification of america was this bad where the victims of a failed system will still defend the same system designed to fail them.
 

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Honestly I feel many of the personal attacks and vendetta assaults coming from blacks that feel "betrayed" by Obama feel the same way that West does. They feel there was a sense of "you owe me" since you are black and you became president and you need to tend to me to prove you care about blacks.

I never expected accommodations and "favors" or what have you as a black person from him becoming president and always looked at his presidency more as a symbolic approach.

But yeah anyway Cornel West does seem like he caught feelings not being so adamantly close to the president as he had hoped to be.

He doesnt owe blacks cause he is black. He owes blacks cause we gave him 99% of their vote and helped him get elected. Thats what politics in this country is about.
 

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i fukking hate these idiots who felt obama owed the black community special attention simply because he's black. if he did that, it completely renders his presidency illegitimate, negating the importance of a black man becoming president in a nation still firmly grounded in white supremacy.

he's my President, not my black President. too many blacks are shortsighted and simple in their thinking.

but he does owe black people a lot.
 
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but he does owe black people a lot.

he doesn't owe black people any more than any president before him that blacks overwhelmingly voted for. are blacks BLACKS or are they Americans? why should obama, as president of the united states, feel obligated to do any favors for black people? :snoop:
 

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he doesn't owe black people any more than any president before him that blacks overwhelmingly voted for. are blacks BLACKS or are they Americans? why should obama, as president of the united states, feel obligated to do any favors for black people? :snoop:

because he's the first "black" president of america,

Obama should be more sympathetic to the struggle. Stop making it harder than it needs to be. Obama owes black people.
 
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