yep...curious to hear joe budden’s take on this on the podcast since he’s always championing the artists yet glorifies puff in the same breath
Mase Responds To Diddy's Grammy Speech(Ethers Him)
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yep...curious to hear joe budden’s take on this on the podcast since he’s always championing the artists yet glorifies puff in the same breath
Not every artist is on that super business mind, when they are ARTISTS pure at heart. Because if you focus on the business side too much, the ART itself suffers in quality. NaS himself understood that and it helped his musical legacy in the end. Last thing you want, is having too many sub par albums/projects because you want to be business mogul.
Puff knows that he cannot do it any longer. The walls are closing in on him, and only a matter of time before someone will use lethal vengeance to end his life.
Only a matter of time before a huge group of people will French Revolution'd the entire music industry.
SO IT CAME OUT THAT THAT 2 MILLION MASE OFFERED DIDDY WAS THE 2 MILLION DIDDY GAVE HIM.Betha ...
That man been on an Ether tour lately .
When he came back and tried to sign to G-UNIT. Puff had given mase 2 million dollars from his pub (20k
) which he walked away with and went to try and sign to 50.That same "loan" or whatever is what he was trying to give back to Puff for his pub.
Mase never told the whole story when he aired out Puff or the fact that they were just together and shyt was all good. He tried to throw him under the bus in public to apply pressure after his lowball offer didn't pass.
Y'all fall for the bullshyt everytime. Leave it to a Preacher to pull sleight of hand.
Puff is a legend and an Icon.
He's on Puffy's side
He didn't like that Mase ran away all those years ago
They talk about it in detail on yesterday's episode
SO IT CAME OUT THAT THAT 2 MILLION MASE OFFERED DIDDY WAS THE 2 MILLION DIDDY GAVE HIM.
When he came back and tried to sign to G-UNIT. Puff had given mase 2 million dollars from his pub (20k
That same "loan" or whatever is what he was trying to give back to Puff for his pub.
Mase never told the whole story when he aired out Puff or the fact that they were just together and shyt was all good. He tried to throw him under the bus in public to apply pressure after his lowball offer didn't pass.
Y'all fall for the bullshyt everytime. Leave it to a Preacher to pull sleight of hand.
Puff is a legend and an Icon.
agree 100 percent
Mase was milkin Puff and he let it slide, out of anyone on badboy that he treated like fam after the biggie passing it was mase
Harlem World was a monster cross over record with over 4 million sold. Puff has Mase doing features on Mariah Carey (honey), Brian McKnight (you should be mine) that led to Brandy sitting on top of the world.
First rap cat with an RnB budget!
Not to mention Puff creating his lane since only you, mo money mo problems and been around the world that set up Harlem World for the grand slam and tell me what you want.
Mase other singles in 98 faded out looking at me and 24 hours to live weren’t as big as anything prior. Puff created his lane and roll out strategy.
In 99 - Mase creates a beef, starts a label outside of badboy, records an album, shoots one video with Blackstreet and leaves. There were other singles on the album with Cheri Dennis, and the crew joint with Shyne and Loon that would of introduced other acts. Puff let him leave without finishing his promotional obligations and his advance that he didn’t recoup. The announcement was made the same month the album dropped which killed the buzz for the record even more.
Puff had street beefs too at the time, the entire east west issue and investigations, he had beef in his hometown of NYC that led to the club shooting that year mase retired and the hits that him and scar had on each other. Puff never ran from his beefs he went to trial stood his ground and anyone that had a hit on puff now is either dead or not going for him anymore.
Mase wasn’t built to handle what comes with fame.
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It's called the music business. If he wanted no parts of the business then what is he complaining about the business for? You can stay in your garage and just make music for yourself and friends if that's the case.
But if you want to be a superstar you better learn the business. Nas is great businessman and major investor these days. He makes more from his business and tech investments than music these days. Michael Jackson was also a shrewd businessman and the goat artist at the same time.
People attacking puff to make him appear like he contradicts himself but look at mase. Look at the trademark smile he doing for the cameras in all these videos.
dude said it before he went on the reunion tour in 2015 and didn’t say shyt. Go and watch the documentary on Apple Music and you will see mase had no issues with his situation. He contradicts himself more than puff.
dude said it before he went on the reunion tour in 2015 and didn’t say shyt. Go and watch the documentary on Apple Music and you will see mase had no issues with his situation. He contradicts himself more than puff.
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Here’s the problem. Diddy went up there talking about the respect of black music.
how you respect black music when you don’t respect black artists? You know the business. You know what shyt is worth. Instead of making your paper and helping a black artist make his.... you out here buying everybody pub for cheap as possible, not teaching them a damn thing about it. Then won’t even allow them to buy it back.
but whole time calling them family and saying I love you 155 thousand times.
you are the white people you speaking against
The difference between P and Puff is contracts. Some of P's artists never had contracts where Puff's artists were bound by contracts.
People are in here talking about how much of a snake Diddy is and that he took advantage. What people aren't understanding is that this is the music BUSINESS. I don't buy the whole "he took advantage of street dudes" angle because street dudes were some of the most successful in the industry in the 90s. Street dudes should be able to spot a hustle a mile away. That's survival to them.
I was looking through old Source magazines and seeing these guys from the streets owning companies and had millions in their 20's.
These dudes who are being "taken advantage of" be giving up percentages, royalties, and publishing for immediate success. On top of that the label is gambling on their success (in the 90's that million dollar videos, big album budgets, etc). Then when you can't recoup and your next album doesn't get a budget or at worst, you owe the label then its "I thought we was fam" and they hit you with "business is business". They had all of these documentaries on the industry where even platinum artists were just breaking even. They had a platinum plaque, but made no money from album sales.
People always talking about Puff "getting his"..how about rappers get real lawyers to go over paperwork.
Only a fool would trust a lawyer that's employed by the record label to vouch for a contract.
It's easier to play the victim than to admit to making an awful decision
All of the industry lawyers are in the same circles. Either way you're screwed. Look at all of the shytty deals Combat Jack advised artists to sign. and he was semi-independent.
Where is Michael Jackson now?
Pwople who are so concerned about the business, end up making sub par material and end up likr Birdman, Master P, Puff, or Jermaine Dupri......making an bunch of trendy songs that age POORLY.