Marvel strikes again! They’re having trouble finding an actor for Mr Fantastic due to film being primarily focused on Sue Storms character

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It’s still just a Storyline in a long history of storylines..

And Hicks was also dead in all those sequals. They way they probably planned the entire series

i am saying that having a tough female does not preclude there being tough males in the same story.

so sue can be tough and reed can be tough.

 

[O.T.I.S.]

i am saying that having a tough female does not preclude there being tough males in the same story.

so sue can be tough and reed can be tough.

I agree.. but not sure if that’s what is going on here

 

[NinoBrown]

i am saying that having a tough female does not preclude there being tough males in the same story.

so sue can be tough and reed can be tough.

Again, the shift happened when female creatives got involved and started male bashing to no end.

That's the issue the MCU can't get past.

 

[$cam-U-Well_Jack$on]

It’s over for Marvel until they go back to basics.

Yep.

 

[$cam-U-Well_Jack$on]

I thought Pedro Pascal got the role?

Hasn't been confirmed.

 

[$cam-U-Well_Jack$on]

You nikkas here are troubled

This too.

 

[2 Up 2 Down]

That's because some of them are forced and transparent as fukk

Example? There is nothing that ever suggested Iceman was gay and they made him gay despite Marvel and the X-Men in general having LGBTQ representation already.

That's current day mainstream comic writing for you. That's the one thing they kept accurate between the comics and the movies

 

[BruhManFromTheFifthFlo]

Wish I could add a fakenews tag here like in twitter.
You made that gay shyt up...you didn't even watch the show.
That's a shapeshifter alien woman.

Damn my bad, bro. Wouldn’t wanna misgender the alien that he’s fukking

 

[King_Kamala61]

I wouldn't wanna play him neither, he's such a lame superhero . Super flexibility

He's the smartest man next to Tchalla and Doom tho

 

[BaileyPark31]

I saw recently they made Samuel Jackson’s character gay / in love with some alien nikka. These social justice hoes ruin everything.

That skrull was supposed to be a woman.

 

[Godless Socialist CEO]

Agreed. I think the comic book fans want something like how he was characterized by Johnathan Hickman they want the "everything dies" Reed If they don't get that. Then people will complain.

To be fair Johnathan Hickman's stories fukking slap, so I understand. With that said, most versions of Reed are solid, and I'm happy with it either way. I'm just not invested enough to care that much about which Reed they give us. Most versions of Reed are really good, so I'm not sure why it matters.

It's not someone like say Spider-Man/Peter Parker where there have been a bunch of different takes on his character, and he changes all the time.

 

[Godless Socialist CEO]

OP wasn't using any logic. He said it NEVER happened.



it's not. she was leader in FF 261 when reed went missing leading up to his trial for saving galactus.

sue was shifted from the invisible girl to the invisible woman by john byrne.

in doing so he made her far more assertive and the most powerful member of the FF.

wikipedia: "It has been said on numerous occasions, including by the Fantastic Four's greatest opponent, Doctor Doom, that Susan Storm is the most powerful member of the quartet and one of the few beings able to rupture the shell of a Celestial"

in FF 280 - 281 sue trashes the FF all by herself.

it is a shame that modern gender politics is getting in the way of remaining true to the spirit of the comics.

both byrne and claremont (pivotal marvel collaborators) wrote strong females who were often more powerful than the men.

it didn't matter though because it was done right.

sue storm - most powerful FF

the women on the x-men had most of the cosmic/celestial powers - storm, polaris, phoenix, rachel, binary, illyana. even rogue and psylocke.

callisto was leader of the morlocks. destiny leader of the brotherhood. white queen / selene leaders in the hellfire club.

Spoiler: ...

Off topic but it's fukking absurd how strong storm is right now. Thor took her off Mars without her approval and she fukking bodied him with ease for that shyt until he could get her to stop and listen to him


She didn't even have to touch him to fukk him up

 

[Godless Socialist CEO]

I forgot how much breh looks like Kimbo Slice.

I'm not worried about a female herald. Galactus has plenty to choose from. Just to reiterate my point, I don't care about tough female characters. There's dozens, if not hundreds to choose from in Marvel. Write good stories and this whole problem goes away. We accepted Infinity War the movie and it was only about 5% of what was in the comic...we accepted it because it was a good story.

If you can't write good stories, why are you deviating so much from what has already been established as popular in the comics?

It's hard writing consistently good stories, I think anyone will attest to that, but Marvel's track record is one that has never been seen before up until Endgame. And now Disney is going away from what worked. The crazy thing that Disney/Marvel is doing is, they are deviating from the core of characters and sidelining the few popular characters left.

• Black Panther didn't have T'Challa. Shuri had this instantaneous transition to Black Panther, when she has been his Q to her James Bond.
• Strange, who made no qualms about killing half the universe to ultimately save the universe, suddenly has a random change of heart to save people who have no meaning to him.
• Thor, is not Thor. That's really all that needs to be said.
• Fury got his eyeball sliced up by a cat. Not even a Flurkin...but the fukking cat.
• Wanda is fawning over imaginary kids, that she knows are imaginary.
• Kang, the next big bad guy for now, was basically neutralized by ants.
• Blade is being rewritten multiple times. We ALL know why.
• And now Reed might be sidelined as leader.

I'm sorry, if you can't see that these are INCREDIBLY BAD narrative choices, you're really just driven by an agenda and not good storytelling...you're ultimately an ideologue.

These films are being written by people who 1. don't respect the source material, 2. rather push an agenda then tell a good story.

You can do both, but it's better to lead with a good story...and if you can't do that, just leave the source material as is, it's that fukking simple.

Are you seriously being critical of Disney over the Black Panther situation

What are we even doing here, and that Thor is no Thor stuff. Yeah, because the original movie flopped and the current version of Thor is immensely popular, not to mention the two strongest characters (popularity wise) in the MCU (Loki and Thor) come from those movies and command large audiences or attention when they're involved with something so why would they change those characters

There are many versions of strange that's a silly complaint

Fury stuff is whatever I'm not sure why anyone would care he's still a bad ass

Wanda is an insane person. She was a nutjob in the comics too. Wanda acting like a crazy person is pretty in line with the comics

There are lots of different Kang's we don't even know if that's the main one

No on really knows what's going on with Blade I tend to not trust these companies as they just market to incels for clicks

Same as above NO ONE fukkING KNOWS. These click bait comic book reporting sites churn out bullshyt slop they know folks like you will slurp up as truth without questions

 

[Vandelay]

Are you seriously being critical of Disney over the Black Panther situation

What are we even doing here, and that Thor is no Thor stuff. Yeah, because the original movie flopped and the current version of Thor is immensely popular, not to mention the two strongest characters (popularity wise) in the MCU (Loki and Thor) come from those movies and command large audiences or attention when they're involved with something so why would they change those characters

There are many versions of strange that's a silly complaint

Fury stuff is whatever I'm not sure why anyone would care he's still a bad ass

Wanda is an insane person. She was a nutjob in the comics too. Wanda acting like a crazy person is pretty in line with the comics

There are lots of different Kang's we don't even know if that's the main one

No on really knows what's going on with Blade I tend to not trust these companies as they just market to incels for clicks

Same as above NO ONE fukkING KNOWS. These click bait comic book reporting sites churn out bullshyt slop they know folks like you will slurp up as truth without questions

I don't know why it's so hard for some y'all to say...Marvel been borderline trash for close to 4 years. They've done better and it's not wrong to demand they do better.

 

[Godless Socialist CEO]

I don't know why it's so hard for some y'all to say...Marvel been borderline trash for close to 4 years. They've done better and it's not wrong to demand they do better.

That’s fine but all those issues don’t matter it’s the storytelling that’s been bad. Tell better stories and no one will care. That’s all it comes down to, y’all’s complaints are pure surface level.

Even if they filled the screen with a bunch of big strong men and tight latex that were “manly”, didn’t show any emotions and beat and treat women like dogshyt for fun, like y’all want so badly. if the stories are bad it wouldn’t fukking matter