Marvel has yet to make a formidable villian

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Their never evil enough. We need some murderous raping evil ass type villain that actually seems like a scary threat. Basically marvel need to get up off that pg13 bull shyt.
 
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And this ain't even about Marvel vs DC. It's about the internet being overly critical of anything that's successful. Nobody was talking about "Marvel has weak villains" prior to "Guardians Of The Galaxy" blowing the fukk up.

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You gotta go back and read this forum then. We've been talking about how weak the villains have been since at least The Avengers when it was Loki getting steamrolled and a generic alien race. I've personally been discussing it on here for quite a while. I did like Winter Soldier though and Thanos looks like he'll be treated correctly.
 

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Did you not read the rest of my post?:stopitslime:
yes i did & i think Loki belongs on that short list, maybe i missed a post or somethin... Abomination was just an afterthought but why not Loki... hes the best villain in comic movies right now.. non-goon....

i get its wrong to blame a winnin team, just feel Loki earned a spot...
 

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Their never evil enough. We need some murderous raping evil ass type villain that actually seems like a scary threat. Basically marvel need to get up off that pg13 bull shyt.
quit takin my color breh... let Avengers 3 be R & Thanos out there doin that & id laugh.. they need Annihilus to come through, smash a PG13 & proceed to give out that work... Death told Thanos to learn from him... that who we need but forgot, hes F4, wack studio...
 

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yes i did & i think Loki belongs on that short list, maybe i missed a post or somethin... Abomination was just an afterthought but why not Loki... hes the best villain in comic movies right now.. non-goon....

i get its wrong to blame a winnin team, just feel Loki earned a spot...

My point was these movies don't need great villains to be good/great movies. So these dudes complaining about Marvel lacking great villains is :camby:


Loki's the best out of the Marvel villains. But I wouldn't put him in the same level as the two I listed. Doc Ock is pretty good too and so was McKellan's Magneto.

If they had done GL the right way, Mark Strong's Sinestro would have been great as a main villain.
 

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quit takin my color breh... let Avengers 3 be R & Thanos out there doin that & id laugh.. they need Annihilus to come through, smash a PG13 & proceed to give out that work... Death told Thanos to learn from him... that who we need but forgot, hes F4, wack studio...
Breh I had this colour first :ufdup: but you dapped my post so I wont neg you :bryan:. Marvel will never do an r rated film though, too much money to lose from the stupid kids not going.
 

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My point was these movies don't need great villains to be good/great movies. So these dudes complaining about Marvel lacking great villains is :camby:
Loki's the best out of the Marvel villains. But I wouldn't put him in the same level as the two I listed. Doc Ock is pretty good too and so was McKellan's Magneto.
If they had done GL the right way, Mark Strong's Sinestro would have been great as a main villain.
yeah i get that... the storys about the hero, thats why im scared to see Sinister... i think they done ok... Ironman got wack villains but im cool wit his movies.. they best villains, they cant use....
 

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I'd agree with @Lakers Offseason that the movies are about the heroes but I'm also of the belief that your hero is only as strong as your villain when it comes to a narrative, if the story with the villain is truly the main story you're trying to tell. They're never going to make any of these big budget flicks rated R so you cats gotta let that dream go. The villains aren't going to be that sinister or wicked as they allow Magneto to be or as the Joker was because Disney likes to cater to all ages. Let it go it ain't happening
 

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Breh I had this colour first :ufdup: but you dapped my post so I wont neg you :bryan:. Marvel will never do an r rated film though, too much money to lose from the stupid kids not going.
:birdman: i been usin this since that other site.. & other sites.. around 2001.... dont give a fukk about a neg but...

i agree its probably a money thing... they want that PG13 money.. probably why Deadpool aint happened yet.. that has to be R, or watered down horribly...
 

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I'd agree with @Lakers Offseason that the movies are about the heroes but I'm also of the belief that your hero is only as strong as your villain when it comes to a narrative, if the story with the villain is truly the main story you're trying to tell. They're never going to make any of these big budget flicks rated R so you cats gotta let that dream go. The villains aren't going to be that sinister or wicked as they allow Magneto to be or as the Joker was because Disney likes to cater to all ages. Let it go it ain't happening
totally agree but tell me this... Magneto comin through givin Flatscans the work would be :whew: rated R, not gonna happen but wow... youre right though....
 

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totally agree but tell me this... Magneto comin through givin Flatscans the work would be :whew: rated R, not gonna happen but wow... youre right though....

Yeah it would be dope but the only way to do it is when a studio decides to invest less I guess. It's not like the 90s where you could do a big budget rated R flick and know it'll recoup for you and then some. It'll be interesting to see if the new terminator is rated R
 

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I love comic books and enjoy the movies but let's face it, these superhero movies are made for the majority viewers who don't want too much complicated villains and they can't make R rated villains either so we're stuck with cookie cutter half assed villains for most of the time :ld:
 

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Yeah it would be dope but the only way to do it is when a studio decides to invest less I guess. It's not like the 90s where you could do a big budget rated R flick and know it'll recoup for you and then some. It'll be interesting to see if the new terminator is rated R
Itwouldn't surprise me if Terminator 5 was pg-13. especially since the last one was.
 

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I don't even count Magneto when discussing comic book villains. He's one of the main characters in the series. Totally unfair to hold single-movie villains up to that standard IMO
 
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