Martin Scorsese - Marvel movies are 'not cinema'

[Lord Beasley]

dude lowkey admitted to being an internet fake militant

 

[Soymuscle Mike]

Avengers Infinity Wars was way more relevant to current society than The Irishman.

Breh

And did someone in here really take the time to type out that MARTIN SCORCESE does "one type" of movie?

Jesus christ

 

[karim]

He was fighting capitalism by giving money to casinos? Donating to Nixon? Hoffa was a capitalist, who fought to make it work for the working class whites. He wasn’t quoting Mao or Karl Marx.

Deniro was sadistic his entire life breh. That was the point of them showing him committing war crimes during WW2.

and imo, the daughter storyline was a strong force. If the daughter isn’t involved in this movie, no one misses her.

The movie is about him choosing the wrong bad guy to grow old with.

a) Hoffa was giving money to the mafia to build Casinos in return for their support during strikes. Before he made a deal with the mafia, corporations employed the mafia to break strikes. He basically made a deal with the devil and thought he had it under control until it turned out that he didn't. The movie also explained why he gave money to Nixon - out of a Personal vendetta against the Kennedys. But he was still a Union representative and an organizer of the workers movement, which means he fought capitalism.

b) when I said the ramifications of capitalism i didn't imply that Hoffa or anyone else was quoting Marx, I was talking about the greed inherent to it and the choices people make in a capitalist society.

c) none of what you said invalidates the fact that this movie is totally different from a comic book movie.

 

[Wild self]

@Wild self this is your typical Marvel cat right here.. I didn't have to go more than the first page for it to begin

The material writes itself. Moving goalposts like a muthafukka/

 

[T’Challa’s Heir]

It's still one of the most watched programs outside of the Super Bowl lol. How would you know if they lost or gained viewers if you don't pay attention to it?

I read/watch the news. I’m a fan of movies in general. Consequently, during Oscar season, a lot of the news about movies is about the Oscars. In general I don’t care what movies win awards. But I’m aware of the cultural significance of the event. I don’t watch baseball or hockey and I’m still generally aware of the state of the industry.

 

[hex]

No, they aren't. They actually work in the industry and I'm glad you brought that up because that's how this whole thread started. Some people got mad over Scorsese's comments on kids movies and the fans of kids movies said "oh well, he's just a guy anyway" and nah... I disagree completely.

If someone thinks he's just a guy, okay but don't try to push that on me or others. That's like "I don't wanna hear shyt about Nas and writing, Nas is just a guy"

What's the difference in the comparison I just made? None. Nas ain't just a guy, Scorsese ain't just a guy.

I'm at "they actually work in the industry."
And you said it with such casual, misplaced confidence.

Washed up 80's rock star Meat Loaf is an Oscar voter because he starred in a flop movie 20 years ago....and his movie star friends got him on the panel:

Oscar voters aren't always who you might think

Meat Loaf, in contrast, is more than happy to be a part of the inner circle. He said he became a member when, after starring in “Crazy in Alabama,” a 1999 drama in which he played a corrupt sheriff, he asked the actor Dennis Quaid to sponsor him for membership. Quaid and actor Chris Sarandon put him up.

This year Adele, Kendrick Lamar and Questlove are on the panel.

Never mind the fact that hairstylists and make up artists like Robin Beauchesne and Jamie Kelman are on the panel.

Will you sleep better at night, knowing "Joker" and "The Irishman" were legitimized by Adele, and some guy that cut hair on the set of "Looper" 7 years ago?

So yeah....they're just people. Some of which are knowledgeable about movies....some of which got on because of a friend. Or they sold a bunch of records. Or put eyeliner on Scarlett Johansson.

And I hate to break it to you, but Scorsese and Nas are "just guys". This isn't a situation where we're debating, I dunno....astrophysics and you're citing Neil deGrasse Tyson. Where there is objective facts in play. It's art, which is subjective. Nas is a legend but he's praised Future....I think Future is trash. Should I give a fukk what he said, in that situation?

Fred.

 

[Whips-n-Chains]

Breh

And did someone in here really take the time to type out that MARTIN SCORCESE does "one type" of movie?

Jesus christ

avengers infinity wars

I legit feel sorry for that boys mother...I can’t say man bc no man gonna get this hype over a movie targeting children and early adolescents

 

[Saysumthinfunnymike]

There's literally hundreds of voters and most of them work in the industry and what he didn't tell you is that not everyone votes on every category.. most awards are voted on by their peers.

So yes... they aren't "just guys" and most have way more knowledge on film than the posters in this thread

 

[Saysumthinfunnymike]

Respect Future more than Nas brehs.. because that makes sense. Nas clearly doesn't know more about writing than Future, right?

 

[hex]

There's literally hundreds of voters and most of them work in the industry and what he didn't tell you is that not everyone votes on every category.. most awards are voted on by their peers.

So yes... they aren't "just guys" and most have way more knowledge on film than the posters in this thread

Your "peer group" comment is laughable because all voting members are eligible to select the Best Picture nominees.

As per the Oscar voting rules:

Voting

Regular awards are presented for outstanding individual or collective film achievements in a wide variety of categories. Most categories are nominated by the members of the corresponding branch–actors nominate actors, film editors nominate film editors, etc. However, certain categories such as International Feature Film and Animated Feature Film have special voting rules which can be viewed at our Rules & Eligibility page. All voting members are eligible to select the Best Picture nominees.

Some guy that shaved Daniel Craig on the set of "Spectre" is going to weigh in on Best Picture.

So what is the bolded based on....other than your inability to admit you're wrong?

Fred.

 

[Saysumthinfunnymike]

Some guy that shaved Daniel Craig on the set of "Spectre" is going to weigh in on Best Picture.

You act like because a person is a professional make up artist or costume designer that that disqualifies them from knowing about film when in fact they've been around film most of them for their entire lives... so they see first hand the process that goes into film making far more up close than the average person.

And remember the reason why this is an ongoing thread is because Marvel cats can't let it go that nobody cares about popcorn movies like that. It isn't enough that they make a lot of money, they want the movies to be "respected" and that's how this all began in the first place.

Then when they lost the argument they moved on trying to be fake militants

Let's leave out the fact that the majority of Oscar voters are directors, writers, production designers, cinematographers, actors and the like...

Yes.. they do know more about film, oh well

 

[Whips-n-Chains]

Do y’all comic book MFers get all dressed up to go see the movies or is that too childish?

 

[Whips-n-Chains]

Imma keep teasin y’all til you grow out of your super hero phase

 

[Whips-n-Chains]

And ftr I don’t like heros I love corruption

 

[Sterling Archer]

You act like because a person is a professional make up artist or costume designer that that disqualifies them from knowing about film when in fact they've been around film most of them for their entire lives... so they see first hand the process that goes into film making far more up close than the average person.

Nothing about being a makeup artist shows you have the aptitude to critique cinema.