Martin Scorsese - Marvel movies are 'not cinema'

[Saysumthinfunnymike]

So you gonna ignore the context of that post? What does that last line say? I was clearly talking about how the Oscars added in a popular movie because they were losing ratings. Or did you forget that the Oscars tried to add a best popular movie category?

So you’re evidence is a troll post? And a fairly deliberate misreading of my post?

how on earth are you such a Scorsese stan? You don’t seem to understand nuance and context, like at all. At this point I’m not even sure you understand the movies you’re riding for.

Stop with the juelz.gif. The context of the situation was interest. If Black Panther had a chance or better yet won BP, you'd be hyping it to no end.

 

[karim]

I haven’t read this thread so this may have already come up.

Martin Scorcese’s most famous films do nothing for society and have no message. I like The Irishman a lot, but what was the viewer supposed to get from it? Mafia movies are comic book movies for a different audience except comic book movies touch on societal topics and becomes part of the zeitgeist.

Avengers Infinity Wars was way more relevant to current society than The Irishman. I like Scorsese a lot and do agree that comic book movies can be goofy and shows how we regressed as a society, but his films aren’t the best way to combat that.

the irishman is about working class culture, the damage war can do to peoples personality, the ramifications of capitalism and greed, the danger of male egos, the corrupting influence of power, coming to terms with your own mortality and dealing with guild. It is far from a comic book movie for a different audience.

 

[T’Challa’s Heir]

Stop with the juelz.gif. The context of the situation was interest. If Black Panther had a chance or better yet won BP, you'd be hyping it to no end.

Except I wouldn’t because I don’t give a shyt about the Oscars. I was clearly making fun of the academy for adding a popular movie with an all black cast, with no chance of winning to drum up more viewers. Remember, this was the year after the #oscarssowhite.

I seriously doubt you’ve ever actually watched a Scorsese movie. You don’t have the comprehension for it.

 

[mastermind]

the irishman is about working class culture, the damage war can do to peoples personality, the ramifications of capitalism and greed, the danger of male egos, the corrupting influence of power, coming to terms with your own mortality and dealing with guild. It is far from a coming book movie fora different audience.

It was a mafia movie.

And I strongly disagree about the dangers of capitalism, seeing as both the mafia and Hoffa were in support of That.

I will agree about masculinity. The thing is goofy ass marvel movies cover the same stuff.

 

[Still FloW]

which one do you think it gets?

Best Picture
Best Soundtrack
Best hair and makeup
Best Actor
Best Adapted screenplay

 

[karim]

It was a mafia movie.

And I strongly disagree about the dangers of capitalism, seeing as both the mafia and Hoffa were in support of That.

I will agree about masculinity. The thing is goofy ass marvel movies cover the same stuff.

Hoffa fought capitalism and got corrupted by it without realizing it and the mafia was the corrupting force he thought he had under control. And the mafia is made up of working class people trying to find a way to cheat the system so they won't spend their life at the bottom of the pyramid but they all end up paying a high prize for it. De Niro basically starts out trying to put food on the table for his family and in the end it is all for nothing because he alienated his daughters in the process. This movie is definetely not about the spectacle, as a matter of fact, there is hardly any spectacle in it. It's about human relationships and acting performances, so I really don't see how it compares to a comic book movie

 

[mastermind]

Hoffa fought capitalism and got corrupted by it

He was fighting capitalism by giving money to casinos? Donating to Nixon? Hoffa was a capitalist, who fought to make it work for the working class whites. He wasn’t quoting Mao or Karl Marx.

Deniro was sadistic his entire life breh. That was the point of them showing him committing war crimes during WW2.

and imo, the daughter storyline was a strong force. If the daughter isn’t involved in this movie, no one misses her.

The movie is about him choosing the wrong bad guy to grow old with.

 

[FlyRy]

Best Picture
Best Soundtrack
Best hair and makeup
Best Actor
Best Adapted screenplay

Make up awards brehs

 

[Still FloW]

Make up awards brehs

there was one for soundtrack. cant remember what its called.. but its there, you tried it fucc nikka

 

[mastermind]

there was one for soundtrack. cant remember what its called.. but its there, you tried it fucc nikka

Best original song score

 

[KravenMorehead™]

there was one for soundtrack. cant remember what its called.. but its there, you tried it fucc nikka

Best score?

 

[Saysumthinfunnymike]

Except I wouldn’t because I don’t give a shyt about the Oscars. I was clearly making fun of the academy for adding a popular movie with an all black cast, with no chance of winning to drum up more viewers. Remember, this was the year after the #oscarssowhite.

I seriously doubt you’ve ever actually watched a Scorsese movie. You don’t have the comprehension for it.

just stop it. Accept what happened. Everyone knows I discuss Scorsese movies on here all the time, idiot. Accept that I caught you in the lie.

 

[Still FloW]

Best original song score

Best score?

yeah thats the one..

 

[T’Challa’s Heir]

just stop it. Accept what happened. Everyone knows I discuss Scorsese movies on here all the time, idiot.
Accept that I caught you in the lie.

Let’s try this a different way:

Your theory is that I care about the Oscars. What’s your evidence? A single post about how them nominating black panther wouldn’t get me to watch. Do you have any other evidence? Like, did I post in that thread about anything other than that?

You also make the claim that had it won best picture, I would have been hyped? Where’s your evidence? In my first post of this thread, I talked about how I don’t think the Oscars mean much given Crash’s best picture win, and the roles Denzel and Pacino got wins for.

And your discussion of Scorsese is shallow. Everything reads like you fell asleep watching a movie and read the Wikipedia entry for his movies.

 

[Saysumthinfunnymike]

And your discussion of Scorsese is shallow. Everything reads like you fell asleep watching a movie and read the Wikipedia entry for his movies.

Yeah okay I've been discussing his movies on here and back on SOHH for years, especially his stedi cam shots in Goodfellas which I made threads about for how influential the technique had become. You're just grasping at straws now.

Let's try this a different way.. what were you even doing in the Oscars thread? Why were you posting in there? You don't 'care' about it right..